MY JOURNEY FROM CHRISTIANITY TO AFRICAN SPIRITUALITY: IFA INITIATE

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MY JOURNEY FROM CHRISTIANITY TO AFRICAN SPIRITUALITY: IFA INITIATE


MY JOURNEY FROM CHRISTIANITY TO AFRICAN SPIRITUALITY: IFA INITIATE

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  1. This is very enlightening. I cringe thinking how I started in this because I was around people who mixed Ifa with what they thought was right. Too many narcissists are ruining this for those really on the right path. Everything happens for a reason. Thank you for this message and hope it reach those who can grasp it at the right time.

  2. Great content. FYI: In the 1800s, the church in the UK, authorized and published the Negro Bible. It was highly edited and redacted for the sole use of missionaries and slave owners to indoctrinate black folks into the faith. Check it out.

  3. Maferefun olofi and all the orishas. I love ifa and I am grateful my ancestors have lead me to ifa. People say it’s demonic when it’s quite the contrary, there are so many ethical rules to follow and if you do evil they punish you.

  4. It's the physical and spiritual threat of western society that causes our people to assimilate out of fear. Tribalism and self hate causes them to be disrespectful towards their brothers. – ìdi n'otu di iche iche

  5. Christianity has a strong hold on our people, and they will fight you to the very end. I applaud you for taking hold of your journey. I know this was a year ago, but thankful it's still up.

  6. People will latch on the emotions and just ignore the facts because it makes them feel safe. But it's like, being in an abusive relationship with someone who convinced you the outside world is horrible and you have to stay with that person to be safe!

    The Diaspora needs to be free.

  7. It honestly makes me depressed that so many black people refuse to go to the African spirituality (of their respective ancestors since it's not like all of us are to be in IFA for example) due to being so brainwashed by the fear of Christianity. Being afraid of spirits, being afraid of magical workings and rituals that WE WERE ALREADY DOING! It makes me feel like we'll never be free as a people (Speaking mainly as a person from the US)

    It's kind of wild when you go back to think about it. You ever notice how, indigenous spiritual systems kinda just minded their own business? Like they had their beliefs and their lives and pretty much didn't care if others had their own spirits or belief systems? Meanwhile, Christianity and Islam destabilized and pulled our people away from the philosophies that were WAY HEALTHIER ON OUR WAY OF LIFE.

    Now in the continent Africa, we have political corruption, poverty in many places, misogyny , bigotry like homophobia and whatnot. And we just keep falling into the same old pitfalls! We could be greater, and more united if we just left Christianity. No offense to those who y'know. Genuinely chose that spiritual path after being properly informed, but….I think Abrahamic religions need to leave the main stream of the planet and let everyone else have a chance to get back to where they were originally. The planet is in pain, and we need to get back into alignment with the world, spiritual and physical

  8. Can you name one Christian teaching that supports your erroneous teaching that “Christianity” did these atrocities . No people falsely claiming to be Christians did these things. If you know the Bible from A-Z then you know the Bible forbids kidnapping and the enslavement of people. The NOI used these same words and tactics in the 40’s – 60’s. I abhor all the evil done under the guise of Christianity – the inquisition , slavery, KKK. So let’s tell the whole truth

  9. With all the different tribes that were enslaved, how did IFA get to be dominant? Pretty sure the Yoruba ppl were not the only ones brought to the New World. 🤔

  10. Just wanted to add that Africa is every place on Earth 🌎. We were divided from learning the comprehensive knowledge of matter: land, gas, coloration makes up people, nations are made in very seperate, very different planets. Planets are made of acids, & colorants. Slavery is the people from other world used Frauds, capitalism to steal our land and resources. Stolen legacies is the robbery of the entire BLAK Planet and they have force themselves to live here with us. Forced immigration, forces are forcing immigration. We are not the immigrants no place on earth this is miseducation, and Matter must be taught in African Spirituality

  11. I’m 60 and religion never sat with me either. I’ve been focused on my story for over 50 years and trust me when you believe the belief gets louder via divination confirmation reparation ( in all her guises), ancestor veneration…shall I continue? Unfortunately this is not the space for me to share but we all have to find spaces to share share and keep passing the truths of our versions❤

  12. No disrespect to u an your journey bro but i pray u get back to the source of creation an when u submit to him totally i promise u he'll lead u into all truth yes the white man did a hell of a good job on our people but there were reasons for these things seek me an u shall find me ase.

  13. This just goes to show brainwashed parents have messed over their children entirely because even if your a Christian as an african parent especially yoruba decent you should have had your child read so you can better guide and protect them from danger thats one thing the older ancestors had right their children hardly did wrongs/crimes like rape n theft on a mass scale compared to today.

  14. Lol I remember when I was a kid I would have to go to church and ill go up in the bitch and go my ass right to sleep soon as the pastor started, talking that bullshit

    Ase!!! Ase!!! Ase!!! thank you so much my brother I'm happy for your awakening in your journey I'm really proud of you then again from the sounds of it u been woke haha good for you sir

    I will be going to Africa to go into my initiation this year 2023 Ase!!! Ase!!! Ase!!! keep going man don't worry about all the sleeping ones but you will be blessed for waking others from there nap thanks for your time

  15. 💯 The colonizers are very much attuned to our indigenous spirituality. They brainwashed and beat Christianity into us and demonized all African spirituality and then they create secret societies using many of the tenets of African spirituality without giving it proper credit… YT people act like Ogun with their love for bloodshed and dogs and I feel like they know but will never admit it… When I talk about Ifa and other African spirituality, I get the biggest resistance from Africans… Even the Bible describes Jesus with Black features but Africans love their white Jesus… At least make Jesus Black… We will never be free enmass worshipping our oppressors' god… The YT religious and psychological programming has proven to be the worst juju on Black people.

  16. Are there any instances in IFA where the report of a newborn’s divination is negative or very ominous and the Babalawo recommends killing or aborting that new born? Because not everyone in any giving society through history fulfills a positive goal. What is a parent supposed to do if the report of a divination is negative and the high priest recommends killing the baby?

  17. Wow…… some of us were blind to the truth…. Can you imagine??? Some of us came from strong Christian homes saying so many things. Now I have started digging up my history because I need to know my origin as a black African. Blessings to you brother. I will be following your channel as I have lots to learn.

  18. I have been getting this message each time I do divination but, I didn't due to silly excuses like how will i face my christian family with shaved head especially my brother who discouraged me? Will I be able to follow the taboos? I finally made up my mind to do it when I attended my god father's ifa festival. It was there i knew the definition of love. People were treated equally. Ifa gives you peace of mind and preaches love. Most people that condemn it do it behind. Well, I don't blame them na nollywood and their pastors. Do you know that white garment churches to eto that is similar to isese's then come to condemn it.

  19. PROF Wole Soyinka on Christ as a Symbol

    "This, again, I believe is part of the pattern of acceptance of European thought and ideas — this idea of attributing the concept of self-sacrifice to the Christian, to the Euro-Christian or Judeo-Christian world, simply because a single figure emerged from that particular culture to espouse, in very beautiful mythological terms, the cause of the self-sacrificing individual as a kind of, as the surrogate for world suffering, social unhappiness, and general human unhappiness. It is often forgotten that the idea of individual sacrifice-the principle of the surrogate individual-is, in fact, a "pagan" one. Those who attribute this concept to Europe forget that Christianity itself is not a European religion. And that Christ, the central figure of Christianity, is really a glamorization of very "paganistic" ideas: the idea of personalizing the dying old year, the dying season; to insure the sprouting, the fertility, the idea of the emergence, in fact the very resurrection, of Nature. All this is "pagan" — "pagan" as an expression used by the Christian world to describe the fundamentally natural, Nature religions. I see Christianity merely as another expression of nature religion. I cannot accept, I do not regard the principle of sacrifice as belonging to the European world. I completely reject the idea that the notion of the scapegoat is a Christian idea. This scapegoat idea is very much rooted in African religion…I think the obsession with individual salvation — which, if you like, is on the opposite end of the axis to self-sacrifice — is a very European thing. I am not aware that it occupied the minds of our people. I think it is a very European literary idea; in fact, the obsession itself is a very Christian principle. In our society, this kind of event, this process, is inbuilt into the very mechanism which operates the entire totality of society. The individual acts as a carrier and who knows very well what is going to become of him is really no different, is doing nothing special, from the other members of society who build society and who guarantee survival of society in their own way. I think there is one principle, one essential morality of African society which we must always bear in mind, and that is the greatest morality is what makes the entire society survive. The actual detailed mechanism of this process merely differs from group to group and from section to section, but it is the totality that is important. I think there is far too much concern about this business of the Christian ethic of individual self-sacrifice. "