Why Everyone is Wrong about the Apple Vision Pro (including me)

Why Everyone is Wrong about the Apple Vision Pro (including me)


Why Everyone is Wrong about the Apple Vision Pro. Use code UNDECIDED50 to get 50% OFF First Box and free wellness shots for life with any active subscription at https://bit.ly/3UlAohG! The Apple Vision Pro has a lot of hype, a lot of negativity, and a lot of snarky hot takes on social media surrounding it. Depending on who you listen to,…

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  1. watches all these videos about it being a terrifying dystopian gateway into an empty isolated future full of floating ads and screens
    You all know the headset isn’t.. stapled to your face… right?

  2. I've said it before (on other videos about this thing) and I'll say it again. Vision Pro holds a lot of promise and I can't wait until the competition catches up. I'm not an Apple user and I have no intentions of becoming one (for various reasons) but I can appreciate the work their devs do to make new technologies and software and really push the envelope on a lot of things. I also know that whatever Apple does, good or bad, others will soon follow. I'm planning to get a VR kit at some point in the near(ish) future (just moved and need to get other things setup or fixed). It looks like the best option for me right now would be the Big Screen Beyond though I'll have to find someone with an iPhone to help me order it since they currently rely on Apple's depth sensor (in theory it should be possible to do the same thing with my Pixel's cameras so maybe they'll figure that out and save me the hassle). My priorities for a VR kit are: Best specs I can get at a somewhat reasonable price, not tied to an account that's going to sell my information and could be banned for something stupid ("Meta"* Quest series), compatible with Steam VR and external sensors (lighthouses and possibly other body trackers in the future, it's highly unlikely Apple will play nice like that), support corrective lenses (Big Screen allows you to buy prescription inserts, I don't wear contacts due to sensitive eyes and I can't get Lasik due to thin corneas). I don't particularly care for pass-through though it would be nice, I'm mostly planning to play VR games, get exercise, maybe watch some movies, and probably use VR Chat and/or similar apps). The ability to place things in the real world and use them is cool but that would need to be much more lightweight for me to use it.

    * Facebook straight up stole the name Meta from another company that produces VR equipment and had a similar infinity symbol logo. Not sure where the lawsuit for that currently sits but Facebook is big enough that they'll probably get away with relatively little if, any, punishment (even if the courts side with the real Meta and force Facebook to pay millions it would hardly make a dent, we really need financial punishments to scale with the size of companies so they actually feel pressured to fix their shit).

  3. All the headsets out there are for home use, most are too big and heavy and battery too short to be used constantly "On the move", the only one that could evolve into the VR/AR on the go IMO is the Bigscreen Beyond, but the current version has no camera for passthrough.

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  5. The 'Halo' strap design, first popularised by the PSVR, but subsequently used on many Windows Mixed Reality headsets and the Meta Quest Pro, is almost certainly more comfortable than either of the 'clamp to your face' designs offered by Apple for the Vision Pro. With the weight carried on the forehead, it feels like something you're wearing, rather than something you're clamped into. The after market Halo strap that I have for my Quest 2 was an absolute game changer in terms of comfort, and apparently the same strap can be easily adapted to the Vision Pro. I'd highly recommend trying one, mine only cost about $50.

    One trick that I use to improve the accuracy of both hand tracking and inside-out tracking in a dark room with my Quest 2 is a simple 5W infrared flood. It means that a room that's dark in the visual spectrum can be flooded with more than enough IR light for accurate tracking. Since the halo strap means the headset is suspended in front of my face, I can remove the facial interface entirely, giving me a real life view of my keyboard, mouse and/or HOTAS, which all light up themselves.

  6. Yours is the first Vision Pro review I've seen that focuses primarily on usability and utility versus features and technology. Excellent and useful!

  7. I haven't tried it, but I suspect that I would prefer to have a mouse or touchpad rather than the look and pinch interface . I get the portable giant monitor, but having a user interface that depends on me keeping my eye on the item I interact with seems awkward at best. I I think combining the battery with a large touchpad would be ideal. I am not sure the 3d interface really offers much in terms of utility for regular app use. I am reminded of back in the late 80s, early 90s there was this idea that your desktop should look like a picture of a desk and your files were kept in a picture of a file cabinet, Even online stores were tempted to create literal pictures of shelves with products on them. Non of this ever caught on outside of the gaming world, because it was a distraction without a benefit. Sure it looks cool to have windows floating in your living room, but aside from entertainment and some jobs that you want to see an overlay on a real object , it is hard to see why I would want this over a simple wearable monitor.

  8. Thats One of the best review I have seen on the vision Pro…..no hipe just pure fact…. dont get me wrong the vision is good not great yet but doesn't worth $3500. I am waiting for the next version

  9. Honestly, I don't think the external battery is necessarily a compromise. I could this being an intentional design decision to say "hey our best headset will have a battery pack" which will give them the ability to move the compute out of the headset and into that same headset. This makes for a world where standalone smart eye glasses could actually be a thing. I don't think it'll happen in the next few generations but I could certainly see that being their direction and setting the expectation day one seems like a good move.

  10. I look at Vision Pro as an iPad Pro with a special type of monitor that gives you a special kind of experience. Me? I need a new Mac, not an "i" device so I had HOPED that the Vision Pro could run Mac apps but not so it is out for me.

    Just to say it one more time. Vision OS is an iPad Pro with a special kind of viewing experience. It does run special kinds of apps, just not Mac apps. Only iOS types of apps. Meaning iPhone & iPad apps and Vision OS apps which are just special "iOS" kinds of apps. Not MacOS apps.

    Is it cool? Yes! Would I like to buy one? Yes. Is it worth $3,500? It depends on the person but keep in mind, and I'll say it again. It does NOT run MacOS apps. You CAN have it DISPLAY MacOS apps IF IF IF you have computer that run MacOS. I'm not sure if it has to be an M series app (non intel) or if that is not a requirement.

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  12. Matt.. to delete content don't look at the delete key look at the text of the line above the keyboard. to delete hold your fingers together (to the right of the word you are deleting) then separate your fingers when you want the melting to stop.

  13. imagene when you program the old school video on youtube {im the jugguarnaut } were the street fighter video game sprite is used of the juggernaut from x-men to pop up while useing the *AVP tho ! lmao ima be dead cracking up seeing him popp up like in the video but instead appear in real life is too funny an viral video waiting to be manifested for big giga chad views you know holmes / like sherlock homes esses

  14. I think AVP is a view of the future and the first iteration of the developer toolkit.

    Remember: until AVP's release, developers didn't really have a device to test on – so people should cut it some slack since for many developers this is their first chance to develop, and debug on an actual hands-on device. Day one software availability is probably pretty sparse for this very reason.

    The Quest's been around in various iterations for what? A decade give or take?

    Makes Zuck's confident bluster about Quest's deeper experience kind of fall flat.

  15. Apple is not an open platform, the Quest is ANDROID.. To give you an idea, I sideloaded minecraft on my Oculus GO, and still have two Oculus GO's each with minecraft on them.

  16. You will not have the communities you desire without the accessibility to the platform. The reason altspacevr was so successful as a vr platform, before microsoft eliminated it.. Was that it could be used without a vr headset, just using a mouse.. RecRoom is the only vr space that I know of that has that utility.. But its for children. RecRoom even permits you to create your own games using a visual programming language.. It may turn out that RecRoom will be the Metaverse in the end..

  17. What apple needs to do is extend its platform out so that people on quests can use it with their apple products.. But knowing how stuck up and snobby apple is we know they will be as reluctant to play fair as much as microsoft will be reluctant to play fair.. And the consumers suffer, what can I say..