Why Does The World Not Care About Men’s Mental Health? – George TheTinMen
Why Does The World Not Care About Men’s Mental Health? – George TheTinMen
George TheTinMen is a content creator, pro-men’s advocate and social media influencer.
Men’s mental health is in the toilet. 80% of 18-24 year old suicides are men. 15% of men say they have 0 close friends to call on in an emergency. So why does it seem like the world doesn’t care and just thinks that men are still the benefactors of a…
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00:00 New Study About Guy Nights
06:00 What Do Women Think Guys Are Doing Together?
11:35 Explaining ‘Are We Dating the Same Guy?’ Facebook Groups
16:30 The Path to Becoming a Female Incel
20:19 Women Bragging About Abusing Men
29:09 The Advantage Women Have Over Men
33:13 Hollywood’s Damaging Portrayal of Women
37:40 The Strange Laws Around Female Sexual Assault
47:20 What Are We Misunderstanding About Domestic Violence?
55:10 Do Men Have Reproductive Rights?
1:01:54 Responding to Billie Eilish’s Comments About Men
1:07:34 Men Are Facing Higher Discrimination Than Women
1:16:38 Placing Female Victimhood on a Pedestal
1:20:00 What the Right is Telling Men
1:28:20 Sexual Assault in Male Prisons
1:32:46 The Disposability of Men
1:39:48 The Current State of Men’s Advocacy
1:48:07 Will There Be a Minister for Men?
1:53:04 Where to Find George
Im 42 now and have always been socially awkward but I didnt have to deal with social media in my younger years so I cant imagine what young men are going through right now.
PUTTING OUT A TIC TOK MEEM LIKE THAT, YOU GET WHAT YOU GET.
WOMEN KNOW USUALLY WHEN MEN GET TOGETHER THEY GET VERY DARK IN THE BOYS CLUB.
UT IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A MENS CLUB WELL THAT REQUIRES MORE THEN A SHORT TIC TOC ATTENTION GETTER,
YOU DO JUST TO SHAKE IT UP. COME ON, GET HONEST AND THEN DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
WOMEN WOULD SUPPORT THAT, WE ARE TIRED OF BEING YOUR THERAPIST AND MOMMIES,
IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO A MEN CLUB AND MENTOR EACH OTHER THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD THING AND WE WOULD SUPPORT IT.
ITS ABOUT TIME MEN TOOK RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN HEAL LIKE WOMEN ALREADY HAVE.
GOD BLESS ANGELA
Its a refreshing change to hear a conversation with a Lefty who doesn't appear to be a Marxist. While I'd by happy to see circumcision banned, I think its rank dishonesty to suggest its similar to "trans-affirming" removal of primary or secondary genitals.
I would suggest the reason that the right is interested in men going into women's spaces but seem to be less interested in violence in male prisons is because the trans thing is a question of truth. The right wing / masculine approach is concerned about truth because its planning for the long range things. If you abandon the truth in the instance of prisons where the problem is clear, the knock-on effects ripple throughout society causing problems in schools, in hospitals, in gyms. The left wing / feminine approach is shorter-range – to solve the problem that's immediately in front of you – hence looking after all the victims of violence in the prison system. Both approaches are needed, but the masculine approach must be primary at the "ruling" level, because without principle coming first, you will end up with many more problems which need to be fixed.
IRL this looks like right-wing/masculine government and left-wing/feminine front-line personnel, in much the same way that families require governance to cope with the long-term/range and short-range care for children.
There also is a story of a man whose best friend died and afterwards found out his wife cheated on him with, said, friend. The couple had a child together which turned out was actually the friends child who was now dead. The courts ordered him to pay support even after blood results proved he was not the father and yet still after divorce was to pay child support.
This guy is a legend, must get so much flak.
Americans didn't have the Hedgehog siblings (I had to look it up), but we did have "Scruff McGruff," an anthropomorphic dog who was a detective who would "take a bite out of crime" (that was the slogan). For years, he spoke of children being on the lookout for signs of crime, staying away from drugs, and seeking help from police, authorities, or adults. In retrospect, it is a bit weird to have a canine sleuth dressed like Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca–fedora, trench coat and all.
I can even remember the address, 30 years later, as it was the end-of-advert jingle. You old fogeys like me will no doubt hear this in your head:
Scruff McGruff
Chicago, IL 60652
A significant portion of the issue surrounding female-on-male sexual assault is that men have been gaslit for so long that *we don't actually perceive it as sexual assault*. It's a disgusting paradigm, when one sex takes advantage of the other it is rape, yet in reverse it is just the man "being a bitch" or "weak" or some other derogatory nonsense.
Women are not better at language, they are better at misusing language – using the "space" between what they imply and what you infer to create damage.
Real feminists advocate for men’s health. Angry “feminists” are always pointing the fingers. Don’t trust society to get it right.
How blind one has to be not to recognise that white people as a group are under an even more severe attack than men are? And it's obviously connected as it comes from the same platform.
Is this something feminists have made an issue out of?
I thought men just took time to themselves, or had the nights when they went to the club, or went fishing, etc.
My grandfather went on hunting and fishing trips with his buddies to Canada, or off the Florida Coast, and I don't think there was ever a question of it. They went to the club and the gold course. I don't think anyone ever suggested they couldn't do those things.
This seems to be some weird new problem for young men these days.
X-Box? Well, it's not like fishing, hunting, or rock climbing.
When I was young, only men did those things.
If the men were on long hunting or fishing trips, their women took the train to New York for shopping and to take in some shows and eat in fancy restaurants.
There was no notion that married couples had to be together all the time.
I assumed marriage would be like my grandparents.
But then feminists came along and ruined the relations between the sexes.
hot take: It's certain DEMOGRAPHICS of men we don't care about. But to look at that data would reveal a lot of 'offensive' truths we want to keep secret. I believe some of it is psychological warfare slow death stuff. To not have those mental health issues makes them a more likely threat to those already in positions of authority and power. In families, peer groups, communities, work and government. So basically ALL levels
1:31:50 This tribe analogy is a nice talking point but you don't need sociology to deconstruct it. You just need Biology. The bottom line is: This isolated tribe where either most of the women or most of the men are removed will DIE regardless of which group is removed. Its only a question of time and if it will be a quick death or a slow and painful death. Humans use meiosis to procreate like all multicellular life. We need this to increase or genetic diversity to keep our adaptability to the environment high,. For example our immune systems, they need the entropy, if you will, to be able to detect more antigens and be able to react. (Kurzgesagt has a nice video about this topic) If nearly all women die, ok this will be over rather quickly, the birth rates will plummet and the tribe vanishes. If nearly all men die the Tribe will live longer, but the genetic bottleneck will break their necks eventually. Incest will increase, hereditary diseases will increase and they will die after a few generations of infectious diseases against which they can hardly build up immunity. I would like to see these topics, which come up again and again in discussions, examined from a more (natural) scientific point of view.
My husband and I are friends with two other couples we meet regularly by organising evening get-togethers in each-others houses.
I'm not particularly close with the other women but my husband is good friends with the men and goes out with them for boys nights out every other week or so. They often go out for some food or watch sports or go to a bar or club.
I'm happy that my husband has this social life and is enjoying these evenings with the boys. He would tell me about the evening and where they went, etc. – but he'd sometimes add that I shouldn't say where they went if it was a bar or a club to the other wives because the men told them they were at someone's house, etc.
To me it seems weird that they would be threatened and that they don't want their husbands going to a club with their friends. I don't understand why they wouldn't trust them and then it results in the men lying to their partners – to me that's worse than going to a bar…
I prefer that my husband tells me how it is and I'm happy for him to have fun and unwind with his friends. I certainly can't provide him with the type of company he gets from the boys (nor would I like to).
This culture of keeping "your man" away from bars seems really counterproductive and confusing to me.
Great conversation, thank you!
I’m definitely concerned about men, especially younger men.
My step grandson is really struggling with trying to navigate this insane world and his father is not the greatest role model.
When he was little, he was the balls to the wall, ask for forgiveness kid. Absolute hell on wheels so it never occurred to me and his grandfather that we needed to worry about him.
But once he got into middle school and is now in high school, he did a complete 180 and is almost unreachable at this point.
I don’t know how to break through the barrier he has built around himself, and I’m really worried about his mental and emotional health.
Haha wow!!! who would have thought that women are being biased towards hiring over men, when there’s laws telling employers they hav to employ women or face the consequences of having to few women on their companies. And you wonder why business is getting worse, rather than getting better through meritocracy.
When you say Whitney narcissists complained on social media, you didn’t say it but I’m imagining it was women?!.and I think women just don’t understand male loneliness is because they can’t think of anyone else these days
They are afraid you talk the shame shit aboute your partners as they do on girls night.
"I'm not sure what it is but I'm sure it's offensive"….When you see everything through your narrative and biases, you end up just as bad as the people you're fighting.
The call is coming from inside the house chaps….
A lot of traditionally male only spaces really are toxic af though, have you ever spent time in a Call of Duty lobby?
too bad i dont use neither of your preferred social media platforms, george – and never will do.
i really enjoyed the energy between you too, good talk and important topics. didnt knew till now how fcked up male misrepresentation was in statistics
But most nurses and florists and wait staff and teachers and librarians and social workers and counselors are women.
Also most gamers and Otaku are men except for cosplayers.
Most Hardware engineers and Software engineers are also men.
Kitchens and Symphonies are mostly men.
At least we have Baseball and the barber shop.
I got into a debate with a woman that made a post re female circumcision, about the social, physical and potential death consequences due to the unhygienic conditions etc. I completely agree with her, however she ended it with don't compare male circumsion as it is not the same. It got under my skin as her ignorance was highlighted by that comment. Female circumcision is not as common as male circumcision. In Western society male circumcision is by and enlarge safe, female circumcision as a comparison does not occur, bar a few rare and illegal cases. Female circumcision occurs in North Africa, male circumcision occurs all over the world, however my focus on her ignorance was sub Sahara africa. The social consequences are the same as it is a coming of age ritual. Uncircumcised boys are just that boys no matter the age, cannot sit at the mens table, difficulty to be accepted for marriage or even have a say in collective decisions made by men in the community as he, even if he is 50, is only a boy.
When the initiation season starts there is a running total in the press about how many have died this year. Forget about mutilation and other consequences.
In summary my commentary went down like a lead Ballon.
I work at a public school district and I just went to a seminar at the central office about how relational aggression isn’t gender-specific and how wrong the old literature and “mean girl” archetypes are. It’s so bizarre to literally see the reality of these biases in the classroom and on the playground yet be told in a sterile board room under fluorescent lights that they don’t exist
Don' t compensate action for talking.
"Male disposability…" this is too much.
We desperately need men in Psychiatry. I have been going in and out of psychiatrists' offices for the past ten years. My situation has become quite critical, because I am sick in the wrong way. All these female psychiatrists seem very apathetic to my suffering, and I keep wondering if it is because my abuser was a woman. Either way, we men need to create our own mental health system. What we have today, at least here in Denmark, is so dangerous, it should be viewed as increased suicide risk for men, seeking help for suicide.
What a great interview. I’m sick and tired of of the man-bashing narrative in the women’s movement, and really am concerned for men and boys in our society. We need strong and healthy boys and girls to grow into happy and healthy men and women, and if we bash and ignore the needs of 1/2 the population, we are doomed. Also, women’s interpersonal aggression is what makes many workplaces toxic and is making society toxic since so much of our society is now ruled by women.
Never forget that our online comment sections are infested with bots that spark the fire and fan the flames. There's so many women who recognize men's issues in real life.
Most men do not report sexual assault because of shame or embarrassment. There is also a very different punishment when a woman molests a boy than when a man molests a girl. The man gets 20 to life in prison and the women often gets months to a handful of years.
I want to preface this statement that I have a really great marriage overall and really love my wife. She's traditional and not a feminist so that's stellar. However I have been struck by her out of anger in fights multiple times. She usually goes for meaty areas like chest or upper arms but she is swinging probably 75% strength or more. I've told her she better get that under control before we have children and she then flips it to this very long drawn out depression because I said "she won't be a good mom". Super strange but I don't tolerate that type of emotional twisting of events so that's gone away. But a lesser man might fall for something like that.
It made me think about how weird a situation it is. She's 5'3" and I'm 6'. I'm a weight lifter, Afghanistan war veteran, and currently an LEO. If I ever even wanted to make anything out of it, which I don't, I don't think anyone would believe me and they would probably laugh at me. Now on the flip side I have always ensured I was in control of my emotions at all times. It's critical for both of my professions. I've never even raised my voice at my wife or swore at her. But if I ever broke my calm demeanor in a fight and she wanted to make a deal of it I think everyone would turn on me in an instant and if I had legal consequences I would lose my rights and my job.
I was also struck multiple times growing up by my own mom culminating with being slapped in the face when I was 15 or so. I never struck back. In my family it was just presented as a fact that women aren't capable of emotional control so they aren't responsible for outbursts. If my dad had slapped my sister, also a vet and LEO, he would have lost his rights, his job, and possibly faced jail time. My dad was also very stoic and in control of his emotions so I must have learned it from him. It's a wild double standard when it comes to consequences for physical violence.
People in their need to be right completely forget that 2 or more things can be true at once.
Does anyone know about the studies that he quoted? Specifically the ones that state that, by the numbers, single mom actually have an advantage over single fathers when it comes to relationship (short and long).
I don’t doubt him, but I couldn’t find the numbers cause I don’t even know how I would search for such an article without making a dissertation that is bound to not give me any results
Il just wait for sex robots with ai… that shit is just few years away btw that thing with fb groups are just sick stuff.
I think the biggest overall problem with men versus women in modern culture, is that many women cannot fathom that there is a silent, hidden majority of men that are good people, who just spend their time working, exercising, and playing video games. They don't go out much, they don't date much. They just exist, alone. Men as a whole aren't violent and terrible women haters. Most just want to live our lives and be happy.
I honestly don't care if the world doesn't give a sht about me. What bothers me is the blatant hypocrisy, "I don't give a SHT about you and your problems but fully expect you to lay down your life and resources for us……..yeah, not happening and i'm more serious than a heart attack.
I sympathetize with men struggling with mental health problems. My brother gas schizophrenia abd is homeless
people dont care bc men have more perceived agency then women and children. With all that power comes great responsibility, and one of those responsibilities we carry is a lack of sympathy even from our cohorts
Because society views men as disposable
If women have a choice, then so should men. End child support
Marvel doesn't want to write human beings in their films, whilst majority of humans online dont want to show themselves as (ordinary) humans.
Few exceptions ofc, very few.. which is why we're here 😄
1:14:42 A pretty key factor now. Man shot yesterday, if the news doesn’t mention the race, you know who did it.