Vaush's Opinions on Personal Health Are…

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Vaush's Opinions on Personal Health Are…


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… really lacking in substance.

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  1. Ok your explanation of calories was worthlessly verbose
    Cal in v Cal out is what gains or loses fat
    And for the most part that is the weight people want to lose
    So saying cal in v cal out is how you lose weight is colloquially correct
    Its also how you gain muscle or lose muscle because calorie surplus/deficit is what allows the gain or loss of muscle mass when said surplus/deficit is built with the right macro nutrients

  2. I'm just in the first ten minutes of the video. You're correct so far, but the way you talk about calories makes it seem like you could break down the calories into nutrients. It's the opposite in that food ( measured by weight or volume pls) is made up up of nutrients, and some of those, (carbohydrates, fats and rarely protein) contain energy which you can choose to measure in calories. You're a smart guy and I'm pretty sure you already know that, but I felt it could be explained better.

  3. Also, on the ‘hating yourself’ thing. I’m someone struggling with weight and trying to build healthy habits. It’s almost impossible to not hate yourself when you realize you’re too fat and unfit to do a lot of exercises you try. But you can’t let it stop there. You have to ask ‘ok, but what are we going to do about it?’. Finding that answer has always helped me feel a lot better than just trying to force being positive. Positivity it’s important, but it’ll only get you so far

  4. “It’s just simple calories in/calories out and thinking anything different is stupid fake fat positivity for idiots. Also here’s a bunch of reasons why it’s more complicated that I’m not informed enough to actually articulate.” -Vaush

  5. I know this will probably get buried but let me tell you the truth. Don't listen to Tyler. If you want actual nuanced discussion about weight loss and food go follow Dr Layne Norton.

  6. Most people I know who struggle with weight mainly struggle with getting enough physical activity. A lot of the advice in this field is tainted by people wanting to sell you product – from alternative foods, to gym memberships, in order to lose weight YOU NEED to consume something, and the idea that you can start small and build up is kinda lost. Health seems to be the only field where this type of advice is acceptable. Imagine if artists gave the same advice – "if you want to become an artist, first you need to buy the 27" Cintiq that costs like $4k, you need to buy Photoshop, you need an $5k PC… you need to go HARD", nobody would ever become an artist. With driving the advice people around here get is that when you're a new driver, you should get a cheap car, because you'll beat it up. Don't get a Shelby off the bat. So why isn't the same type of advice extended to health? Start small, build habit, you're going to be fine. You don't need the gym to be healthy. You don't need to spend money.

  7. So glad you mentioned it but I'll say it again: canned, frozen, preserved produce is better than no produce. especially if you can't afford to constantly stock fresh produce. A large part of the discourse against processed foods is classism in disguise imo

  8. 20 or so minutes in is just making me think of one of the most solid pieces of advice I've heard floating around. It's better and more tenable to incrementally add high satiety and nutrient dense foods then to take out shit from your current diet that may not be the most "healthy". An the complicated nuances on characterizing each of those calories and like the psycho-social impacts of hunger integrated into it all means… having a black and white attitude on food is generally not good thing to let take root in the head.

    (Also I'm just thinking about how my main motivation to WO is for stress mgmt and overall health. I'm also looking at this for functional fitness at baseline – maintaining physical ability to do just regular things.)

  9. I agree. To me I think it's because part of his self image or self identity is that he's always right so he talks down or is almost as condescending as possible.

    He tends to just says shit that poisons the well first then builds with facts on top of that, but the foundation is poison.

    So in essence, he often isn't technically wrong, but he is being so very needlessly provocative that it kinda puts into question what his aim even is.

  10. Omg, dude is making just as many oversimplifications/mistakes as Vaush does…stick to what you're sure you know, or find resources in real time. (Carbohydrates =/= hydrocarbons). Am I nitpicking? No more than Tyler is…

  11. This is one of Tyler’s most based segments yet. I appreciate the humanity on display. Maintaining a human body is hard work, and with many of us having to work more and more just to scrape by, it’s tricky. Patience and empathy are key when discussing weight and appearance. We’ve shamed people who struggle with weight for centuries and yet, obesity rates have only gone up and up and up. Remember that no one who is unhealthy wants to be that way.

  12. Thank you for this.

    Last Dec I won a six month training program and I was so excited to start losing weight. As a trans man, when I started T, it did not make me gain muscle, but kick-started my body to storing fat on my stomach. Then I went through the menopause, which messed my body up on so many levels. I finally came through it around a year ago and I was ready to start the next chapter of my life.

    I am near the end of the course and I have barely lost a pound. My stomach is still big and I still struggle to lift anything at all.
    But the trainer made me think differently about my body. He helped me change my posture, so that my knees and ankles are stronger. He helped me with my nutrition so I still eat the same calories as I used to, but I'm more full, so I snack less. He's helped me with my chronic joint pain and my lower back no longer cries at me every morning. He's helped me gain stamina so I can walk for hours now. We've worked on my feet arches and I've bought better shoes that let me splay my toes so I can walk more confidently as most cheap shoes crush your toes and destroy your balance.

    I didn't win weight loss, but I won a wealth of knowledge on how to, eventually, get to point where I can workout. I won confidence and gained my body back. I'm still not at the point where I can exercise like an average person going to the gym, or even with a modest workout set at home. I've still got another six months to a year to go until my body is ready for that. But slowly, steadily, I will get there.
    Everyone is different and "eat less and work out, stupid" is not always the answer.
    It's great to hear someone acknowledge that from a place of experience.

  13. I'm at the 29:00 minute mark in this video. So far Vaush has said that people's bodies are different (true), thermodynamics applies to human bodies regardless (true), and if you take in less than you burn you will lose weight (true). That was only 30 seconds and you've spent the rest of the time acting like he was wrong while all you did was expand upon what was said. This shouldn't have been a reaction to Vaush if you can't believe he didn't include your 28 minutes of material into the first 30 seconds of his video. Vaush's total video is 12 minutes long while yours is over an hour longer. It's not possible to include everything in 12 minutes that you took an hour to say. It looks like your only critique is wishing Vaush puts out an hour long seminar on each subject he touches.

  14. big note at 34:50 – monounsaturated fats are pretty good for you (and polyunsaturated). you're probably thinking of trans fats, which are mostly artificially produced by hydrogenating oils to give them a lower melting point. trans fats are really bad for you, but also relatively avoidable (and another reason why people say highly processed foods are bad)

  15. Fully agree. Negative emotions about yourself is just a epiphenomena and shouldn't be your focus. If you focus on self loathing, you wouldn't be able to catch deeper process, this emotion signals about.

  16. I'm only a few minutes in but I think you're confusing Calories and Carbohydrates. Calories are the energy quantity of food and are used by the entire body, since they aren't specific nutrients. Carbs are carbs and used by specific parts of the body. Weight loss and gain is about energy consumption and energy utilization, but HEALTH is not just that. It's an important distinction that many people ignore or forget.

    Fat cells are just energy storage and fats cells decrease in size when energy consumption is in deficit to the basal metabolism and activity level of the body. That is the boiled down essence of weight loss, but everyone's body does this process differently due to their unique body chemistry.

  17. Weight vs fat is also a great point. As a man who weight around 350 but look as fat as someone who is 250, I know to not really worry about the scale. I just want to lose the fat.

  18. Vaush does have a habit of talking in deepities; as per Dennett, statements that are trivially accurate/true and profoundly inaccurate/untrue. Yes, technically if you have a significant caloric deficit you will lose weight, that's called starvation and malnutrition.

    We are however not internal combustion engines, so things that matter is exactly what Tyler is talking about – mass of nutrients and vitamins, which is not divorced from the ways in which your specific digestive tract will process and your specific metabolism will convert and allot.

    So, do not take your dietary advice from a talking head that mostly "reads" just "tax receipts" in his free time, or anyone unqualified on the internet – nutrition is a serious and non-trivial branch of medicine for a reason.

  19. Honestly vaushs content has gone so down hill recently. I never liked the guy but he was at least fun to watch and agreeable on some subjects, but his recent videos have just been him unintelligibly blabbering about whatever comes to mind.

    He literally made a video supposedly covering the fact daily wire put him in a cartoon, and he talked about it for a minute before trailing completely off topic and just started yapping endlessly. Its honestly sad to watch, gives me the whole "emperor has no clothes" type feeling.

  20. (desperately trying to say something nice) I suppose it's less stupid than his literature take? If you squint? And ignore the potential harm to people who take this seriously?

    Vœsh for letdown of the year 2024

  21. Another food disorder moment:
    How the fuck do I gain weight? I drink 4 500kl energy drinks, but I rarely have food money because capitalism.
    I eat a frozen pizza and a work lunch and if I eat any more instant noodles, my stomach will die
    Having adhd doesn't help, because I forget to eat or drink
    I am also doing her and I actually need fat to fill up my ass

  22. Came for the vaush hate, but as per usual your tangent was more informative than the roast. A lot of us I think know we need to lose weight, but your lecture helped frame what it means in a more self love than self loathing kind of way.

  23. 16:25 i grew up with a friend with a disorder that prevents most absorbtion through his intestines.

    Dude had a fucking prescription diet for Pizza and soda, lmao. He could eat an entire pizza, chicken nuggies, chips, and most of a 2 liter. He didn't crack 120 till after high school and he was always tired.

    He has gotten better through medication, nutritionists, and Doctors, and I'm thankful he's living a much healthier, happier life.