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The Penuel Show In Conversation with Rutendo Matinyarare, SA Politics, Cape Independence, ANC, EFF
The Penuel Show In Conversation with Rutendo Matinyarare, SA Politics, Cape Independence, ANC, EFF
THE PENUEL SHOW WITH RUTENDO MATINYARARE
00:00 – INTRO
04:55 – Zimbabwean advocacy, ZanaPF
09:40 – Sanctions
12:14 – Support for ANC
18:50 – Who are the beneficiaries
22:30 – BEE
27:40 – Why BEE failed
34:35 – Recognising opportunities
38:50 – Concept of Fargin
44:20 – The Lie of 1652
46:10 – Gayton McKanzie
51:55 –…
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THE PENUEL SHOW WITH RUTENDO MATINYARARE
00:00 – INTRO
04:55 – Zimbabwean advocacy, ZanaPF
09:40 – Sanctions
12:14 – Support for ANC
18:50 – Who are the beneficiaries
22:30 – BEE
27:40 – Why BEE failed
34:35 – Recognising opportunities
38:50 – Concept of Fargin
44:20 – The Lie of 1652
46:10 – Gayton McKanzie
51:55 – Immigrants & immigration laws
59:20 – Cape Independence geopolitics
1:01:25 – SA & Zimbabwe relationship
1:07:00 – Zimbabwe’s fight for SA
1:16:25 – Opinions vs Facts
1:21:00 – Who we need to speak to
1:26:10 – Opinions of ordinary South Africans
1:28:50 – Focus on illegal immigrants
1:34:15 – Closing comments
1:38:27 – ENDS
I like Rutendo and ofcos you Pen, you guys must do this more often, we are learning alot.
Somebody needs a straitjacket and a loonie bin room🤣
This was a powerful and a sincere conversation. Thank you guys for such a brilliant performance. Looking forward to when you meet again. One and a half hour well spent. South Africa please do not allow these white people to divide us in this continent. Its time to start sending back to Europe where they came from. Once again thank you.
The colonisers use their puppets in politics and the civil service to destroy all state owned enterprices in Africa so that their corporations can buy them at throw away prices. That's what is happening to Eskom.
Quality journalism is about asking open ended questions to establish facts.
HI THERE GAYTON DO NOT SUPPORT CAPE EXIT I HAVE HEARD HIM SAID THAT
This whole conversation has so many biases and claim that they try not to be.
This guy in the white shirt said you can't make a claim without evidence and just say things because it's how you feel.
Wheres the evidence on your side that BEE ever benifited anybody since it was established? It failed and he is still defending it with some guy making millions coming from nothing, and saying if it wasn't for BEE he wouldn't have had the opportunity. No my dear friend, it was just the freedom we've received due to the end of apartheid.
Stop feeling sorry for the ANC's failures and still blame it on white people whom have no control on what this current government is doing.
Im a coloured guy, and all I see is blame the white man for this and that. You're trying to fight racism with more racism. I though this was going to be a very decent and intellectual conversation, which I have to add, you two are very intelligent but lack common sense….but this turned into a baseless pointing of fingers to a group of people whom have no control over the ones in power.
Also Zimbabwe has their own issues that we clearly cannot even try to assist with currently, because our own country needs attention.
The best way to help your neighbor is to help yourself first so you can get on your feet. Once astablisbed properly, then we can help neighboring countries. Today everybody wants to be a politician, and even former gangsters want in on the fun. Nothing against Gayton Mckenzie, but dude once you've changed your life around from a life of insane crime, and expect voters to vote for you because you're a changed man? It's like trying to put your trust into former p*rn star looking after your kids and saying she's a born again virgin.
Convenient for Zimbabwean to not accept Cape Independence. This is seriously so amazing how they somebody from another country to lecture us that independence is not a good idea. The realization of milking the western cape is coming to an end and those whom are milking it know that. Not saying it's Zimbabwean or any other foreign person…..we do know there are certain foreigners whom are criminals who have connections to the SA Government whom are milking the western cape. There are good foreigners living in SA but nobody outside can lecture us that independence is bad. Damn the nerve of these people
I like this Rutendo guy intellectual capacity; the way he articulates facts hits me through and through! Penuel, you are doing great Myman as well because you bring people of sound background to debate issues that matters and you also demonstrate great understanding
Penury doesn’t know RSA history especially as regards the time of apartheid and what other neighboring African countries sacrificed and contributed to their independence. Apartheid regime bombed Botswana residences in 1985 in search of MK fighters. Rutendo is spot on on his arguments
South Africans wake up you cannot allow someone who came from across the sea to divide you when your ancestors lived for thousands of years as one
Ag rubbish!!!!!
"Zanu has never been proved to mismanage Zimbabwe "😂😂😂😂😂
The guy is smart & dangerous at the same tym
Politicians use double talk to confuse their enemies. This South African expected Mugabe to reveal his strategy publicly. These type of people will cause many people to die. because of their naivety. Does this guy know that the apartheid regime had spies, and hit men operating externalĺy.
First time I hear someone question the rhetoric of Corruption if every African leader without providing proof.. Thank the Almighty for Ruto because the South Afrucans are still comatized by apartheid education. They are viewing the African problem myopically.
to be honest i like Rutendo but he must not think we are fools not knowing what is happening in Zimbabwe. the whole world knows and thanks to Penuel for challenging and calling him out on that issue.If zim is so great why not go back and settle there. Him and Maponga are educated fools of the highest order
Penuel give the man a chance to educate us as SAns
If only panuel could listen and learn. If you don't care why are you having the conversation?
That's where you come in Panuel, dont undermine the power in your podcast. These discussions will eventually result in victory. Just do what Rutendo is doing to correct to correct what the politicians failed to do, the mistakes and the wrongs done by our ancestors, etc. Don't wait for politicians for everything. Now that you know politicians are not articulating what rutendo is articulating, it does not mean it's not happening. Don't give politicians too much power they don't deserve. Aim at empowering yourself and the black society at the grassroots level. It's called managing upwards. Alignment with neo-colonialism is one mistake you will live to regret. Mugabe and Mandela are the living proof of this mistake, and the eventual generations are correcting these mistakes.
Lol. Penuel and Cognitive dissonance was proven on this interview. You convenient bro 😂
What a conversation of all ages this one!! We black people never learn from this one, I give up on them!!
The pen is drowning
This Rutendo lying about Zimbabwe with a straight face, lie about Chamisa, Fadzi and everyone who fights corrupt zanu pf, he lies about sanctions the only sanction that Zimbabwe has is corruption. It sucks, remove corruption and state capture then Zimbabwe is a great nation. He says all this coz he’s being paid by zanupf, he’s a hypocrite.
12.00 You just confirmed you are being paid by Zanu pf and denying corruption is wrong. It was there before sanctions but sanctions made corruption worse.
Politics is very simple it's all about results competent leaders = decent economy and incompetent leaders = poor economy and mass emigration nomatter how eloquent someone is that won't change the facts
Sanctions are not against Zimbabwe. They are against specific people. The government there always misleads the people by blaming their inadequacies on sanctions.
Notice how Rutendo evaded the question regarding to South Africans getting the same freedoms of movement to other African countries
I am starting to think Penuel would have been almost exactly like Cyril if he was in his shoes it seems like there's no sense of Pan-Africanism in him not an inch of it.
Okay as usual Rutendo, great insight.
Rutendo is sowing seeds of division and is misleading and dangerous .
Rutendo is not being truthful when he says South Africans who were exiled in Zimbabwe were free to go anywhere in Zimbabwe and can look for jobs there like ordinary Zimbabweans. Also he didn’t answer the question about how come an African can’t be a foreigner in South Africa but s/he can be foreigner in Botswana, Tanzania, Kenya etc. In Tanzania if you are not a citizen you can’t live anywhere you want, they designate a special area for foreigners and you can’t even look for a job. So basically in Africa the only country that belongs to the whole of Africa is South Africa and it’s the only country that is xenophobic. The rest of the African countries can stand up for their citizens and put them first but when south africa does it it’s xenophobia
The ANC has had 30 years to get something done economically for Black businesses in SA and change the narrative that Black people are stupid and what I see from the diaspora is Rhamaphosa using "words' that an undereducated population follows like sycophants'. The "conservative" wing of the anc are more likely those who benefit financially personally but evidently there is little to no growth for others. Furthermore ; Rhamaphosa is comfortable being in bed with Yts because he was raised around them and profits financially being invested with their businesses. You can see how well Black business are doing by counting and roads and maintenance in Black communities. Sad to say but from what I hear , corruption is normalized in Africa and the EFF is about changing the culture and I think that's a good idea. Those youth that he speaks of are future voters. Also the EFF is spreading and not isolated to SA . This is because of vision which apparently the ANC doesn't have. The ANC can't claim BRICS … that was just opportunistic rather than intentional. Stop the power issue , Stop doing business with America because your punching above your weight class and stop accruing debt that can't be "easily" paid off in 5 years, Build Black banks not supported with Yt money then talk. As long as your the financial minority in your own homeland , you are being colonized. Africa , NEEDS ROADS ROADS ROADS . Make it make sense.
OOOOOOO my man you made a very very good point here 1:07:00
How can we as 20 year old white people be responsible for what our forefathers Did??? And what if we said we dont care if we did benefit? Just checking our double standards. See we should learn from our stupid forefathers and grow a country
How can you say the DA Is resist? You should not call yourself someone that we should listen too if you say stuff without any legal Proof> >> >> I really think you should take race out of you mind. We as South Africans are the losers in all Government services. We as White South Africans of 2024 do not want any racial group of any back ground to be oppressed or be discriminated in any way shape or form. I know we as fellow South Africans (ANY RACE) can co-exist. We can do anything if we try with no reserve. But we always run back to White against black. How can we build anything on that?
55:25 – you can't just say things because you feel like it. Thank you
They're playing an old gambit in kzn since they won the district, follow the money that's moved out of the province, this is already beyond phase 1 48:52
Present is talking rubbish we went to school with ANC children Milton, CBC and Townsend. A house Richmond got bomb.
Penuel, much respect for you, but your guest is misleading himself and others. You did well to stand your ground, but this is the problem with leadership today, start with 99% truth and 1% lie, and then work your way down from there, we are now at 99% lie and 1% truth. This guy actually believes that if you are not benefitting from the corrupt system, it's your fault.
The Presenter is so dubious it's enough to make me cry or laugh.
What Rutendo is not understanding is that the ANC led government is made up of the very same 30 percenters he says he does not need to appeal to. There was an intellectual purge in the ANC between 2008 – 2011. That's when slurs like "clever blacks" started being popularized by the ANC led government. It's also when loadshedding began & South Africa's economy began to go down hill & has never recovered. From an average of 5% p/a to struggling to grow above 1% for the last 14yrs..LMAO just last year we discovered 300 councilors of the ANC cannot read or write in any language so… that is the joke we are dealing with here & Rutendo says these are the sort of people that should be our think tank? I like Rutendo & agree with most of what he says but not this. The ANC is not fit to govern a village let alone a country like South Africa.
I've been watching and from Mozambique with love!
I would love to see you sitting down with more african minds
Rutendo is a very good intellectual,he keeps quiet and listen to opposing opinions without interrupting but he always uses his time wisely to change the narrative.
Rutendo is a real African he knows the white tricks.I'm South African I fully agree with you.
Dear Zimbabwe,
My name is South Africa. I believe you and I are related. Many of my ancestors passed through you when they migrated to the far south from around Central Africa, and some of them decided to stay and make you their new home. I don’t really blame them; you did look beautiful and healthy in those days. You were more than capable of taking care of them and their kids, and all the coming generations, if all the resources you have were being used properly. After all, the reason the Bantu and the San people migrated down south was to come look for places like you, and there you were, found waiting for them, and welcomed them with open arms.
I don’t really want to be too long, so I'll try to get to the point. I love you, and I wish things were still the same, if not better, than they used to be before the Sea People came. It saddens me that you are going through what you are going through alone now for trying to do the right thing of reclaiming a land that belongs to you from the generations of people who stole it, killing and raping in the process. You didn’t do anything wrong, and I hope you don’t regret it. That is what real freedom looks like; we are just afraid.
Their plan of inducing fear to us using you worked. When you took your land from them, they said they would no longer trade with you and put you under sanctions. They promised to do worse to us if we take our land back.
I wish we, all as sons of Africa, backed you up when they said they would no longer trade with you. I wish we stood up and said to them we, as Africa, will no longer trade with you all for what you are doing to our brother Zimbabwe and continued trade with you. Your sons and daughters would not be struggling as they are; in fact, you would be the old Zimbabwe I once knew. You may think I am speaking from a point of privilege; I really am not. My kids are jobless as well; they are old but still staying with their parents, using up the last resources that were saved up by their parents. In no time, I will also have nothing as well.
I tell you all this in hopes to make you understand why I chase your people away when they come to me for help. The sea man has taken everything; I no longer have anything to offer anymore. I know I’m not being considerate, especially after what you and the other nations did for me in the past, but the truth is, I am struggling too.
I wish we can finally look towards ourselves and realize that we don’t need anyone else but ourselves. I wish we realize that we have enough, and they are the ones who need us. I wish we get it right sooner then late.
Please write to me as well.
Your brother,
South Africa
He is talking crap
Rutendo in 2024 is where black South Africans were in 1994 regarding anc… I'm not sure if i should blame his experience in Zim or his lack of heart for dignified leadership which now completely makes me wonder what he really wants for Zimbabwe… wild.
(arise south africa) is still "black leadership" and they just qualified for national – a party that's a year old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecyWgn8PAxg
33:33 Penuel blaming the ANC for a foreigner succeeding beyond Black South Africans is the most black South African thing ever. In this country, the reason why foreigners do well is very simple, they work HARD. How could you conceivably blame the govt when someone who cant even get papers is making a killing, South Africans have BEE & Tenders behind them and never mind Papa Aaron is making it hell to get papers of any kind these days for foreigners (legit papers too), yet they hustle and make it. Look at our supermarkets where Black South Africans dominate. Try to get decent service after 16:30 at PnP. You have a better chance of Jesus coming down from the sky. People want to go home early, they give attitude for the most menial question, drag their feet through everything and we haven't even started talking about Govt organisations – police, Home Affairs, licensing dpt – hell. Even white South Africans in their restaurants I've noticed these days started hiring ZImbabwean and Mozambican waiters – less headaches. It's a harsh truth but with a SAn, they'll be on leave, then when they're back they give horrible service, you call them out, they take you to CCMA. Why deal with all that when you can just hire a foreigner that will work consistently, work hard, and give you less stress because they know that unions won't bother to protect foreign workers. This is the exact reason why Xenophobia (more like Afrophobia since white foreigners & the Chinese never have issues) is so rampant here, people have no grasp of basic economics & expect the govt to save them. Foreigners know the Govt will let them die so they claw tooth & nail to make it- IN WORSE CONDITIONS.