Tesla Solar Roof vs Solar Panels: Which is Worth It?
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Are you kidding me! To answer your question, of why you aren't seeing more solar systems is pretty simple, …COST. Most of us can't afford a 125K + solar solution system. Most of us don't have the resources of yourself or Marques Brownlee!
I cant afford $100k for free energy
spoiler, both cost the equivalent of a house
All the fuzzy math in the world is not going to make this installation sane.
With fifty KWH of battery- I assume your battery is a little more-, why are you trying to sell to the grid? The permitting and drama of grid tie systems simply wasn’t worth the trouble to me. I have a grid connection but have no interest in dancing with the drunk fat girl as I perceive the grid company. Off-grid is so much simpler and I think the evolution of solar power will make your excess power nearly worthless. When the utilities ramp up their storage and renewable generation you will be competing with them head to head and they have bigger heads.
When we have 200% renewable energy production in place,the market for daytime solar will be weak. Then ,because they have batteries,your nighttime grid injection will be unwanted.
Put the excess in your EVs ,one of which you could have bought with the savings by DIY off grid.
How about Luma tiled roof costs????
I think I live in one of the best places to have solar and arguably one of the best places to live in the world in the central mountainous region in Mexico. It gets over 330 days of sunshine and has year round mild temperatures with 70-80's in the day and 50-60's at night. My house does not need AC or a heating, yes you heard that right, and the Architect designed my house it for excellent passive heating/cooling. I installed 3 kw of solar electricity, solar pool heater and solar hot water all for $8000. The local power company gives me 100% credit for excess power for a year and the amount of solar is more than I need and have room for another 1 kw so I can easily add one or two AC mini-splits if needed for the hotter 3 months of the year, which so far I haven't, or changing my propane stove and dryer to electric at some point when they need replacing. I have zero net power and the pay-off of the solar system is estimated in 3 years not accounting for increases in utility rates. It is basically costing me less than a $100/month on all the utilities including propane and fiber internet! I sold my house in Seattle and bought a even nicer brand new home in a beautiful area at 1/3 the price. I have to say the quality of life for the cost of living here is amazing! Even though I bought a hybrid car I absolutely love, a Nissan Kicks ePower not sold in the US, I normally just use my eBike to get around! Life is good…
ustedes tiienen problems sobre encontrar instaladores ,en mi pais hay de sobra hasta te lo instalan ese mismo dia y no tardan meses como les paso
Hmm I must of had a word they didn't like as my previous comment disappeared.
Well, my opinion is go for a standard solar setup. They are cheaper, easier to maintain and do not affect the integrity of the existing roof to the same degree. If you want to pay the tax on the solar roof, then sure play with it, but I would not recommend it as other than aesthetics, there would be little performance benefit over the standard solar (if any at all). Also, not sure if this is still an issue, but there was a problem with fires in early production models. This may be rectified now. I don't expect the efficiency of the solar roof to ever be released. It's not that companies style.
So basically
– the technology is very new and expensive
– poor customer service
Matt, great video, I also had issues with Tesla never delivering my Power Walls, so at the 2 year mark I cancelled the order. Also by then I had gone through 2 hot summers here in So Cal and
with the Net Metering credits and switching all of my lighting to LED bulbs my power bill is always just the $22.00 connection fee. I was wondering though why are you NOT getting the 30% tax credit? I did for my panels.
what about waranty?
Why don't we see more solar roof panel siding solar siding
So let me get this straight. You guys bought solar installations which cost almost as much as my first home. And I'm in my 40s. Got it. You guys are nuts.
Hello, Matt, thank you for making this video! I have a geodesic dome in Los Angeles and I have been trying to figure out solar products that would fit into the triagular roof of our dome. In this video, at 00:15, you show a shingled solar roof. Do you know the manufacturer of the system?
I would NEVER pay that kind of money for solar, considering any half decent diy handyman can do it.
I know it can be scary, but It really is not complicated. It is just another diy project, don't let the naysayers or people with a stake on the industry tell you otherwise
We love our M3 – but, I do wonder about Tesla solar roof quality control and the mercurial nature of their CEO…
Forget solar companies. Just need to buy a whole home battery, sub panel to home, and pair with solar panels all which you can buy for 4-6k all in with install. I’m looking at ecoflow or Walrus options. No permitting, or having to get ripped off from solar which only gives you energy during the day. Anything more than 5-10k you’re better off just investing in the S&P 500 which will pay your bills over and over again.
Absolutely no regrets for having my Tesla solar array installed with three power walls back in 2020. Haven’t paid for electricity since and the entire system produces an excess of 3 megawatts a year. That’s on top of the power walls being discharged daily over the summer back to the grid with a program managed between Tesla & Eversource. Thanks to the subsidies at the time of purchase the entire system will pay for itself by the end of next year. I’m in CT so roughly 50-60% of days are sunny here.
$150,000 grand? only takes you 30 years to break even. Yeah, nahh
My advice: If you can do it yourself, do it. I installed a 4.1KW system using flexible stick-on panels that stick directy to the shingles, and plug-in, grid-tied inverters for about $4k. That's a buck a watt. YouTube has the guides. Ebay et al have the supplies. No tax breaks or net-metering, but a much lower electric bill, and no permits needed: Done this way, it's considered an appliance. Paid for itself in just over 2 years, and has been running now for over 10. NOTE: No battery setup, so I'm still using the grid at night. I'm thinking about adding batteries, since I'm over-producing for about 5-6 hrs/day, but that's where it gets expensive.
Where I live, we have hurricanes about every 2 to 4 years. Shingles are among some of the most adversely affected during these storms. A friend of mine went through Hurricane Ida in Houma Louisiana in 2021. He had solar panels and was able to remove them ahead of the storm then put them back in place after. My question would be: How well would solar shingles hold up in sustained winds of over 120 MPH???
Tesla is the new East India Company.
Let me guess – 16 minutes of exposition with the “conclusion” being depends on your circumstances, different per project, one or other could be right for you or the other, maybe…?
Don't care about going green. For myself, If it's not cost effective there's no point.
Yan ba ang solar ng Tesla? Solar ko wala sa atip hindi na binibilad sa araw.. nasa box lang, apat sa dalawang side na mag kaharap may mirror o any kind Basta reflector at ilaw sa gitna ng mirror 6v o 12v DC bulb mga bulb ng sasakyan malakas yon mainit ..capasitor igniton coil..ewan ilan na output nyan..try nyo kung peke ba o legit..hmm🤔 dikona matandaan kaylan kipa natoro kung pano matagal tagal na naka patent lang taon na…self running unlimited
I had a contract for a Tesla solar shingle roof from 2021. They doubled the price, then went back and honored the original price, but then never actually scheduled the installation, and then my case was involved in the class action lawsuit against Tesla so they eventually just gave me my $100 deposit back. 3.5 years and diddly squat from them. Apparently they stopped installing them in SoCal. This whole process has turned me off Tesla, seeing how untrustworthy they are
You missed the most important part of this video was the data and energy costs
$153K for Tesla vs $133K. It's a no brainer in my opinion. Tesla's look much nicer and would probably bring up the home value a lot more. Plus you get 27.6 kW vs 17.2 kW as you mentioned and twice more battery storage. I think it's absolutely worth it for additional 20K. I guess not even $20K after EV credit.
It confirms that for me I solaris not for me. But thanks for the video. Very informative.
If you have that much money to waste why not just invest in something else and pay for electricity…..
Matt, I live in Altadena, CA and looking at solar right now. My issue is who to trust
Panels for sure. I do my best to keep clear of anything that is proprietary.
Im sorry lad but the metal roof and solar panels are not the best combo the metal roof is impossible to get on during summer. The temperatures are insane !
out put of the panels need to be more for to justify the cost
Six years ago, I went with 7.5 kW solar system + 2 Tesla Powerwall 2s. Works great.
The return on investment would take years before you break even. Not worth it.
You need to make a video that details the ROI – return on investment. Basically, this analyzes the number of years it will take to recover your upfront costs. I don't think that you will EVER recoup your sunk costs.
I'm doing an addition that will require of a replacement of my roof. I keep going back and forth on the idea between panels and shingles as well. In our case, aesthetics will not be too much of an issue as the panels will largely be hidden from street view. There will also be one side of the house that may not make sense for the installation because of tree coverage.
The installation will likely be a hybrid roof for a variety of reasons, right now panels have an edge because of their efficiency over the same square footage even if we might break even on the cost of the system once you factor in the roof.
In either case, I'm convinced that I shouldn't work with Tesla. While they have great software integration and software support, they've been demonstrated to have horrible business, installation and hardware support. Great software doesn't compensate for broken and complex hardware. I'm more excited by the Solteq or GAF shingles as they're designed to be installed like a standard shingle.
I've got probably another year before we start construction, so there's some time to decide.
Solar is not cost effective right now. Like EV, the return is not enough yet. Most people just can't afford this kind of enhancement.