Should Fathers check their Daughter’s Hymen / Virginity ?// SAY IT LIKE IT IS – Ep 111
Should Fathers check their Daughter’s Hymen / Virginity ?// SAY IT LIKE IT IS – Ep 111
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They got it from that disgusting bible. I can't stand Christianity is so fucking toxic.
TI is a creep and belongs in prison for this. All those Trokosi and FGM enforcers belong in the same prison with him. Let them abuse each other and leave women alone.
Pretty sure this girl’s feelings were no different from if he had sexually assaulted her.
Please the hymen can be Intact but the child is having anal sex. Yes, that what the kids are doing nowadays. Ti is an idiot for that. That’s not the right way to go about it.
What is more invasive; a GYN check up, or female circumcision?
I will say a GYN examination can find whether you have a sexually transmitted disease, other infections or perhaps if there has been sexual abuse.
Female circumcision is misogyny to the maximum degree, and can ruin a girl child for life. She will never have the normal feelings a woman is born to have. She may never have a normal period flow. She will never enjoy sex with her husband but only consider it as a duty. Let’s not be sanctimonious here.
So when I look at TI’s opting to take his daughter to the GYN at 15 and 16, I see nothing wrong with it. It’s not like he took her at 15 or much younger to get circumcised ( which by the way is illegal in America to circumcise a girl at birth or any other time). Many Black girls are sexually abused and tell no one. A GYN exam can determine that. Then an honest conversation with parents can be had. Many Black Women have not ever seen a GYN and that is a serious problem. His only mistake is to make something public that should have remained private. She will forgive him, IF she is upset. I believe he was being a good Father.. I believe TI is very strict with his sons and has had the necessary conversations with them.. He has the experience to always know what his kids are up to.
By the way, Tiny the Mother, had no problem with it. She is not the type to keep her mouth shut, if she believed he did something wrong. I am pretty sure she told TI he was wrong to make his daughter’s GYN visits public.
Some of us are so self righteous. How many women travel to the States to see GYNs because they were mutilated so badly due to female circumcision and are having trouble conceiving?
Think long and hard about our own selves before harshly, or unfairly being critical of another.
Phrankleen I agree with you. He should never have made that public. At least he realized once she turned 18 she is grown. TI is a good father though, because many African American girls are sexually abused and they hide it. The mistake he made was to make his taking her to the GYN for hymen check public. People are happy to read all kinds of awful things into it. They will be happy to read the most negative because he is a rapper. Suppose he found out that she had been sexually abused, then TI and Tiny could have that conversation. If they found out she was active with someone of adult age, that’s a legal conversation.
TI is a southern Father too. Southern Fathers culturally are very protective of their daughters. At the age of 18 the daughter can say she does not need to go to doctor for Hyman checks.
The mistake TI made was to make his daughter’s GYN checkup public. I actually believe TI is strict in his son’s too.
I think TI inadvertently let his daughter down. I believe she will forgive him. She may be embarrassed now, but she will see her Father truly loved her.
Why would a father do that if the mother is there. I will not be comfortable doing it and neither will my daughter be comfortable no matter the father daughter relationship. A NO!!
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Good evening Sir peace and blessings to you and your family, Sir thank you for keeping, adults informed,,, Sir as you said,, these people are to free to open their house for people to see. No one else wants to see their perversion,,,and then,,these people get upset when the adults let these perverts ,they are breaking the law.Pastor keep preaching,, Amen
Look my husband should be protecting our daughter and that is part of it. As long as she is living in our house under our care she should be a VIRGIN! If she wants to have sex get married. Period. People should mind their business. That is why we have all these single parents, what the hell? So it is misogynist to want to maintain your daughters dignity until she is with the husband that will have the charge of protecting her? What??? Right to her body at 15? Rubbish…..she has no idea about her body at 15 or even 18 she has to be exposed to that experience before she can know and that should be within the safety of a healthy marital union where she will be respected and protected.
Sensitive society it's gone crazy.
I totally agree with you bro…Under my roof, my rules and regulations are strictly adhered to strictly. The only thing T.I did wrong like you said he went public.
The thought is too scary to contemplate.
Try watching part 2 of the interview. They made a lot of good points but at the same time, his justification for his continuous cheating was disgusting https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10159147281515968&id=726035967
OMG!! This is child abuse of the worst kind – have never heard anything of sort ever before. What is this world coming to? Checking his daughters hymen for what and for who? Husbands seeking virgins to marry, eh? If this evil father happens to be mine in fact, that would be the end of father and daughter relationship.
Let me ask – that evil husband that is seeking a virgin to marry – is he himself a virgin?????? Enough of men's double standard with women. If it is good enough for a man – its damn good enough for a woman. Get me right, am not here to advocate/support fornication for both men/women because that is sin and people should run away from sin however, my take on this is purely "Fairness" – playing fair. What's good for the goose is good for the gander! Men, please treat women with respect after all, they gave birth to you!
Isn't what a mother is for.
TI is absolutely irresponsible, it shows a complete lack of judgement on his part. As a responsible father or mother you educate your daughter about sex education privately, why take her to a gynaecologist to check if her hymen is intact and above all broadcast it to the whole world..????…why and what for….?????……What a stupid dumb father, it must be extremely embarrassing for this young lady. This is why education is extremely important in our lives, TI’s lack of education is clearly obvious here, he doesn’t understand the consequences of putting this kind of information on the internet…his daughter has to live with this embarrassment for the rest of her life….it’s absolutely ridiculous and he should never have done it….PERIOD!!
No ,it is not a good way to train a child .teach them rather ,explain and talk about it with them
As a good father you should be a good example to your daughter by your actions not just words. There was no need involving the whole world/social media about 18 years old virginity. I feel for her privacy nowadays is a myth for some people they will do anything for clout chasing.
I WOULD NEVER ALLOW MY HUSBAND TO TAKE OÙR DAUGHTER TO A GYN DOCTOR UNLESS I WAS THERE! (He wouldn't go anyway)By the way I saw an episode that his Son was sexually active. So, what's good for the goose is not good for the gander? When I was a teen my Father came to the party and took me home! I was angry but what could I do? My parents had rules about coming home at a reasonable time even for dinner! If we were hanging on the block with our friends at 6pm was dinner time! We had to come home!
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Hi , in my opinion it is already a breach of trust with his teenage daughter , for the fact that he is broadcasting this sensitive issue all over the world ! Why do other people have to know what is only meant for the wife , the daughter and himself ?
He should by all means get the consent of his wife and teenage daughter before consulting a gynecologist .
The father disrespected his daughters boundaries and that is hurtful to the girl, let alone if he "advertises" it on social media. If at all , it should be between mother and daughter ! Greetings Conny
Hei Phrankleen, I watched the recorded episode mate. All you talked about and emphasised were true reflection of your personality to the core. Since I've been listening to your channel, I find your views very direct, explicit, informative and very educative too. 'Saying it as it is'. This episode should be an eye opener to parents/individuals that could not differentiate between a child and an adult. Also, on how to carry out efficiently and effectively the job of parenting! A lot of parents out there need to be educated, seek information on how to raise their children as well as how to relate to them on day to day basis and not only when there is crisis. Good job brother.
On point always
Up until all three of my daughters were of age😒😒18.
Well that's when i decided to let them have a little bit of privacy only because as a mother i agree that i am very very over protected. Now my boys i leave that up to their dad/father.
Yes i do sit in the room with my girls because face it you really can't trust no one, i don't go as far as looking down there but i do ask tons of questions i just want my girls to wait for the right guy and not just pass THEIR precious jewelry around🐘
#HELLNO now that's going to fuckn far as a dad/father😵😱😠😠😠😠NO the control has to stop somewhere🐘
Hmm, you said it all Phrankleen, the World has certainly gone crazy putting confidential stuff out there that really should be private, bombarding people like us with info we shouldn’t know about. I’m not one to judge anyone’s parenting techniques, to each their own 🤷🏾♀️. I read a story in the past where the same family doctor that was trusted by the parents, was the one sexually abusing the Child. Of course by the time the parents got to know, that child was already an emotional wreck with psychotic issues and so on. So as parents I believe we need to be careful we don’t subject our kids to abuse thinking we’re being “protective”. An incident comes to mind too when back in Nigeria I was down with malaria, unknown to me, my late dad (God rest his soul) had other ideas; he took me to a doctor I had never met before, to have me checked for pregnancy, I was so innocent completely naive (was about 15/16 at the time); doc just kept on pressing my tummy until I couldn’t take it no more; told him he was hurting me & he said “oh sorry but your dad thinks….”. Nowadays I read some many horror stories of girls who had been abused by such doctors😢😏 and it makes me cringe thinking about what could have happened to me back then…
I agree with you whole heartedly Phrankleen
Update: TI said he lied about the whole issue.
Most of the guys checking their daughters hymen are the ones going about destroying other children’s own.
Let the mothers handle it.