Reparations: Why it’s about more than just money – BBC Africa
Reparations: Why it’s about more than just money – BBC Africa
How do you right the wrongs of slavery and colonial rule – and should reparations be about more than just money?
These are questions which have been gathering steam over recent years as many countries in Africa and beyond increase their calls for a reckoning on the historical injustices inflicted upon them by western powers.
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Please if reparations are needed all your people need to return to their Homeland. And i mean all! And all the public services that your people have used and received need to be paid for.
In the words of the great civil rights activist Bayard Rustin in 1969, "If my great-grandfather picked cotton for 50 years, then he may deserve some money, but he's dead and gone and nobody owes me anything".
Will the now countries who’s former kings captured slaves in their wars and sold them to the Europeans, like modern day like Ghana and Nigeria, also have to pay reparations for the families that they harmed by assaulting and kidnapping their community members?
I think for the topic of slavery European Countries should make reparations to the f.e. Caribbean countries where they (mis-)used the slaves. Then the African countries that harmed the families on the continent should pay for this harm they caused there.
Time then for North Africa to pay up reparations for the Barbary pirates who raided Western Europe for white slaves.
Whole world should pay Britain fee, not for cultural enrichment, but for technical enrichment wich it provided to the rest of the world. Also for ending slavery. Britain literally carried the whole world to civilisation just for world to spit back at them.
Perhaps reparations should be paid to the families of the white soldiers in the Union army that fought and died to end slavery.
U again nana you lie too much
Maybe stop the current slave trade in Africa, before worrying about those that are long dead and buried.
Racial subterfuge like the PoC coalitions in the United States which allow for the 'Hispanic people' to push either Catholicism, Europeanized Traditionalism, or Judaism along with Islam to cause there to be religious strife while undermining the ancestral ties which we have throughout our genuine native belief systems is a deterrent as it keeps us from engaging in the psychological and political warfare which has been at the root of every complaint heard throughout our communities.
The negotiations for reparations are more likely to trigger the type of negative response that the Germanic people of the international communities want.
The historical patterns for Europeans are nothing short of malevolent in regards to fighting in contemporary liberation wars after they believe themselves to have gotten away with the accused criminal misconduct.
Colonel Richard Meinertzhagen in 1902:
'Sooner or later it must lead to a clash between Blacks and Whites. I cannot see millions of educated [Black] Africans, as there will be 100 years time, submitting tamely to White domination, after all it is an African country and they will demand [dominance]. Then blood will be spilled, and I have little doubt about the eventual outcome.'
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx5-gaoXn3jvQjLjRMcEqrN_T3Nfl4yKOR?si=ZCResqwk34k2doCZ
Erik Prince of the defacto Blackwater PMC February 2024
'If so many of these countries around the world are incapable of governing themselves, it’s time for us to just put the imperial hat back on, to say, we’re going to govern those countries … ’cause enough is enough, we’re done being invaded. …
You can say that about pretty much all of Africa, they’re incapable of governing themselves.'
https://theintercept.com/2024/02/10/erik-prince-off-leash-imperialism-colonialism/
Europe and America should stop conniving with African leaders to impoverish millions of Africans before we start talking about REPARATIONS.
End the extortion of Africa's natural and human resources which is currently going on in large scale.
First of all We want Britain, France, USA, Spain, Portuguese, Belgium etc need to pack their things and leave, especially the Military troops, that will be a start to reparations!
Especially France need to stop collecting 500 billions dollars yearly from French colonies! And pay back the money.
Return our artifacts with the money they have been collecting!!!
Some nation has to be the first to move. Though this will likely cause international anger and put pressure on and embarrass all the other nation who don't join in, it will get the ball moving. The first to move should be all the African nations involved in the slave trade. They should put together a small fund, some land and residency for the children of the slaves. This would be painful for them but this will transform reparations from academic discussions to reality
A person who never owned a slave can't pay a person who never was a slave. Thats like paying child support for a child you never had with a woman you never slept with.
I'm so angry when white people try to teach me morality.
And some of that sweat mainly came off the backs of the West Indians and American black people. Who the Africans helped to sell in to slavery. That's were the money should mainly go.
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Demanding reparations for long past damages to ancestors (slavery) is stupid and unwise.
The statute of limitations has been long expired; slaves and slave owners are long, long dead.
There was a limited time after the Civil War to demand legitimately for reparations for freed slaves from slave owners. OK, expropriate the wealth of the former slave owners and transfer said wealth to the freed slaves. History is tragic. The Civil War wiped out utterly the wealth of 99% of the former slave owners and many former slave owners were not land owners. Post-Civil War there was little to distribute to former slaves because nearly all southerners (Black, White) became destitute from the war. Who benefitted (financially, property-wise, wealth-wise) from the Civil War? Answer: the Northerners and they were not slave owners.
But, but, but the evil Southern slave owners traded with the Northerners!!! The Northerners need to pay reparations!!! Nope. Said evil Southern slave owners traded also with people of Europe, Asia, South and Central America, even Africa. Should one demand reparations from Europe, Asia, South America, Central America, Africa, Australia?
The source of slaves in the Americas was the African Continent. Africans selling off their ethnic siblings to slavery to the Western market (the Americas) and Eastern market (Muslim world) benefitted monetarily from the trade. Go demand reparations from the various African Nations. All African Nations will laugh at such demands for reparations. Go demand reparations from the various Muslim Nations. All Muslim Nations will laugh at such demands for reparations.
Booker T. Washington (former slave) wrote about former slaves helping out their former owners who fell on hard times. Should said former slaves DEMAND reparations instead of helping the former owners? The slave revenge movies are popular today (2024 AD).
A village has been totally destroyed by a tornado. God is guilty of this EVIL!!! Demand reparations from God!!! Such thoughts are idiotic. Someone damaged either your person or your property. You have full rights to demand reparations from the guilty. However, tragically, the guilty is often destitute so what reparations can you get? Are you going to mourn your loss forever and never do anything?
A village has been totally destroyed by a tornado. What to do? Wait until God provides reparations? Or would you get up and rebuild the village?
A drug-addicted, homeless, penniless, deranged arsonist burned down your house. What to do? Do nothing, do not rebuild the house until the arsonist made FULL Reparations?
Question: Should you suffer for the sins of your dead parents? Should you pay off the debts of your dead parents? Generational servitude is sustained by having children obligated for the debts of their parents: this is the history of poverty in 3rd world countries, aka s**th**e countries.
There is an asymmetry. I am sure you are very eager to collect what is owed to your dead parents. Even if the debt is owed only to your dead great-great-great-grand parents. Underlying this eagerness is greed. This asymmetry makes one blind to the other party. You are not the sole party in society. Others (the other party) are also part of society. Question rephrased: Should the other party suffer for the sins of their dead parents? Should the other party pay off the debts of their dead parents?
Some reparations seekers may quote the Bible. Proverbs 3:27 = Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due, when it is in your power to act. The problem is that nothing is owed to the reparation seekers who are just grifters looking for something for nothing. If someone was owed, it is the long-dead great-great-great-grand parents.
The issue of reparation is often linked to that of justice. What is justice? Justice can defined thus: Justice is the ethical, philosophical idea that people are to be treated impartially, fairly, properly, and reasonably by the law and by arbiters of the law, that laws are to ensure that no harm befalls another, and that, where harm is alleged, a remedial action is taken – both the accuser and the accused receive a morally right consequence merited by their actions.
Justice. When you go to court, you do not determine what Justice is. The Judge, the Court, the Jury decide what is Justice for you. You may not be satisfied with the Justice but if you want to stay a citizen in good standing with society, you have to ACCEPT the Judgement. What you are seeking is not so much Justice but Satisfaction. Satisfaction has more in common with Retribution than with Justice. Yes, you can appeal again and again and again and again. You just become a vexatious litigant and your standing in society diminishes. You become a liability, not an asset to society.
Think of the Bible as a collection of writings by the Ancients Sages, not so much the Word of God.
Deuteronomy 15 : 1 = At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts.
Comment: The above verse refers to you who want reparations. If reparations is debt, cancel the debt. What is your valuation of the concept of "statute of limitations"?
Deuteronomy 15 : 3 = You may require payment from a foreigner, but you must cancel any debt your brother owes you.
Comment: Who is supposed to pay this "reparation"? Which entity is supposed to pay this "reparation"? Do you consider this entity to be a foreigner or a sibling?
Deuteronomy 15 :11 = There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land.
Comment: The above verse refers to you who want reparations. Instead of demanding "reparations", try to become an asset, not a liability, to your society.
The mob's motto: No Justice, no Peace! Much of the violence, turmoil, dystopia in this World is caused by people pursuing JUSTICE!!!, pursuing COSMIC JUSTICE!!!
Question: what do you value more: Justice? Peace?
Uk has more blood on their hands and they talking about human rights only for themselves
There is no question whatsoever that the places that benefitted most from the slave trade were the coastal kingdoms of Africa.
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Poor people since before Bible times, I could honestly see a little taxes invested in each company at a time, for everyone, not free,but as a investment!!!! for everyone when robots take over 😂 . I mean the world was never good we all fought and many died, the lies where never made laws. Let's be real nobody owes anyone anything. Let's get real and ask all branches, people, and businesses, governments, to work together for a future investment of payments to everyone rich or poor as a investment that goes up and down.😮 Let's get real. Let's not be sitting on our hands when robots slowly start boiling the frog in the water, Let's work together technology is everywhere worldwide.
Africans have to reclaim their rich history and culture like Indians and Chinese are doing now. How can you develop if you don't know where you come from?