MOYA EP 31 | GOGO AUBREY MATSHIQI PT2 | ELEPHANT | SPIRIT | LGBTQI | ANCESTORS | HUMAN EVOLUTION

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MOYA EP 31 | GOGO AUBREY MATSHIQI PT2 | ELEPHANT | SPIRIT | LGBTQI | ANCESTORS | HUMAN EVOLUTION


Moya is a dignified platform for African healers and scholars to unpack the natural sciences and history.

In this episode, we sit down with GOGO AUBREY MATSHIQI.

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  1. Reflective, scholarly and Openly beautiful Conversation. PT3 – it would be interesting to hear how either/or/and Prof Sesanti, Dr Mndende, Prof Ramose, (Rev)Dr Vilakati, Rev Molo, and many others of difference would respond

  2. "He who refuses to guide his Ancestor (out of ignorance) can be forgiven… he who is aware, that one of his jobs is to guide his ancestors , (but chose not to) can not be forgiven"… people need to start believing this notion, our Ancestors indeed need our help, some messed up knowingly, some were blind sided. The arrogance they show can't be accepted, they need to move and allow us to fix their errors. The freedom is with those who exist now, not those who have depated. Ntate Aubrey Matshiqi, I salute you.

  3. You know the class session is lit when the chest burns a little.😩

    We’re so thankful for the the knew knowledge in this physical path of self realisation.

    Its such a deep journey man, trying to balance the physical and spiritual. uTata spoke a lot about about being too attached to the known, are we supposed to be ignore the physical experience? why are we even here?😩

  4. Thank you so much Ntsiki for this long needed confirmation and affirmation of knowledge through Spirit Mashiqi. Kudala ngiyikhuluma and have always been misunderstood. The problem we find ourselves hurt by others words, is the labels and definitions created by someone and mina I wasn't there so I don't even know what they were going through! #My Identity, My Truth – Deal with it!

  5. Greetings Moya & the Elder Gogo! Great to be in ur presence. Watching from the caribbean islands of St Kitts &Nevis 🇰🇳🇰🇳🙏🙏🙏. I have a question. R we not spirits first before becoming flesh? Our first Devine feminine Devine masculine who descended from cosmology on this planet, who unite in love harmony to made the manifestation of flesh. As to the word GOD, the linguistics spoken then was not this weak English spell casting language ( ancient Africa/ Egypt). I'll leave it there for now.

  6. My gratitude to Mamiya for graciously hosting ugogo. However, I feel compelled to offer a critical assessment of his discourse on indigenous spirituality. While he possesses expertise in political matters, it's essential to acknowledge his limited scope in cultural matters and indigenous scholarship, which predisposes him to the common pitfall known as the Illusion of Explanatory Depth (IOED). As a Thokoza sangoma, he belongs to a branch of ubungoma known for its contentious nature, distinct from the Ocamagu (Xhosa) and Omakhosi (Zulu) ubuggqirha and ubungoma, which adheres to indigenous norms and customs, since they do not exist in isolation. Furthermore, his analysis reflects two prevalent errors often observed in Western scholars: ethnocentrism and an inclination towards overintellectualising indigenous spiritual knowledge and practices. These tendencies, inherent in Western scholarship, can lead to flawed reasoning and conclusions when applied to indigenous contexts. It's important to recognise that the concept of "we are all Africans" oversimplifies our complex circumstances, customs, traditions, and histories, reminiscent of some Africans who lay claim to being original Jews or enthusiasts of Kemet without substantial evidential support.

  7. These things Gogo Matshiqi is discussing here are very very deep. Coming from a place of religious brainwashing, it's next to impossible to comprehend these things. But we live, we learn, and we grow.

  8. When he mentioned treating ancestors as they are and aiding them in finding peace in the beyond, it sparked a question in my mind about the concept of a calling—the calling from our ancestors. His words resonated with truth @MOYA, when do you plan on hosting guests from outside South Africa?

  9. Thank you for his knowledge 🙏 as he said, the elephant is a completion of all the anatomical structure. I appreciate his knowledge of the eye of the elephant.

    We still need others to expand on other parts of the elephant. Also those who can explain on the internal organs/parts of the elephant. As it seems according to Ntate Aubrey, as a collective, we have become accustom to explaining spirit/spirituality from a myopic point of view of the physical mainly…given his example ya the elephant 🐘 having different parts to it.

    Hopefully the Gods will also send us those who can teach us about internal mechanism that operates the elephant, visa vie our spirituality.

    I also have a serious concern when Healers mentions the narrative of badimo ba babe, dark ancestors. In Setswana and even Nguni, the word Badimo is a derivation of Ba ga Modimo/Badimo…therefore if our main aim is to reach Modimo/Godself..then for Ba ga Modimo to be the opposite of Godliness, leaves me confused all the time.

    Ka Setswana, even in the bible we are told about Medimo e mebe. Not Badimo ba babe. The bible translations being Medimo ya Seseto, not Badimo ba seseto.

    I agree with less evolved spirit, eseng badimo kana idlozi elebe.

    Nguni word idlozi, is derived from the word Morodzwi/Mlozi..Highly ascended spirits.

    Thus i become consfused with what we refere to as badimo ba babe.

    As we know that english is a mixture of languages and also one word can be taken from two or more words. The origins of the ancestor, is rooted in two latin words ie. ANTE &CEDERE meaning before&go. Then followed by the French language one, Antecessor.

    Where does it talk about evolution of the journey of spirit?

    If we want to get it close to right Mme, we must stick to explain izinto zomoya with our languages, because it helps us interregate further how the words came about or the meaning behind them.

    Again Ntate Aubrey says , when we name a thing/spirit we lessen its being or value thereof, right? Then uses the name/word Umveliqangi to refer to God…even just by naming God, God, arent we lessening Him/Her/It MaMazwai?

    These are questions i would appreciate Ntate to expand on please.

    I thank you for bringing him to teach and share his knowledge with us…also his CALM spirit. That is what we need from Healers.

    Ra leboga Mme Mazwai