Hip Hop Has a Culture Vulture Problem | OLAY & FRIENDS
Hip Hop Has a Culture Vulture Problem | OLAY & FRIENDS
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Hip hop always has. After rappers delight & sugar hill records made all those millions. Every early big “hip hop” label was owned, bar def jam, by non black people that had nothing to do with hip hop culture because they had the money, contacts and record label structure already in place and ready to go when the genre exploded globally. It is what it is.
Some of those vultures is coming from my own communities as well
A lot of white folks be thinking they're part of Hip-Hop culture when they really just Macauley Culkin getting yelled at by his dad at the beginning of the Black or White video lol
FD unfortunately is wildly misinformed about the streets… @PoddyMouthPod 's perspective is necessary in these rooms. Let the man talk.
35:37 Poddymouth really did what u do w/ kids who learn prefixes holy shit
Loved this but FD you wildin talm bout Milwaukee is 7hrs from Chicago- it’s an hour and a half, 2 hour drive at most (I’m from Milwaukee)
Olay. This look? 👌🏾
Trap Lore Ross isn’t hip hop media he’s a True Crime content creator in my eyes
Please support LaRussell. He's making rap/hip hop fun again.
13:45 cap. Mf said Chief Keef wasnt never popular omg😭😭😭😭
I could tell Poddy was from Philly. He talking fast as hell 😂
33:40 Clears throat Hi, I'm 54 years old – y'all are wrong about the timeline of when Hip Hop crossed over to white folks.
Long before Tupac & Eminem, there was Run DMC with, "Walk This Way," in 1986. It's the first Hip Hop song to get to the top five on Billboard and the first to chart in the UK. That same year, the Beastie Boys also genuinely fused audiences & crossed over with, "Licensed To Ill." It's impossible to describe just how huge, "Fight For Your Right," was at the time, because even though it charted in the top ten, it's influence reached even further. It's literally considered a significant song in the Rock music canon by the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
In the 1980s, Hip Hop was the MOST multicultural, thematically diverse genre because it represented the communities of the creators – the listeners were a reflection of that. The only music scene that even came close to that degree of diversity at the time was World Music, and that's only because it's the quintessential artificially manufactured grab-bag genre. Today, people talk about on-demand music streaming as though that's the thing that split music up into little genre bubbles, but that ish was going on back then – Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons could just as easily have been Independent Record Store Guy in the 1980s.
Capitalism + white supremacy narrowed Hip Hop down to Gangsta Rap in the 90s. Obviously, the violence & criminality made the artists more controllable & malleable, because now there's a sub-industry of blackmail, extortion & record labels being owed favours in exchange for supplying legal representation. Glorification of, "thug," culture also helps with trapping young Black kids into the cycle of street violence. Most important of all, though, it ensured that the bigotry & stereotypes of white supremacy were being reinforced in the minds of white audiences. We refer to artists or songs being, "crossover," because the original context was the deep segregation & colourism of the music industry. As a general rule, despite the fact that crossover hit=$$$, the industry only tolerates crossover artists that they control precisely because every crossover hit/artist is an inherent challenge to segregation & white supremacy.
I’ve been getting an ad every two minutes and it’s highkey getting annoying so I’m out this vid. Maybe it’s just my page or sumn
First time here and loved the convo definitely earned a sub
32:48 Statistically, Hip Hop surpassed rock as the most popular genre worldwide in 2017, I feel Rock/Indie culturally started waning around 2010 – 2016, it was still very popular when I was growing up
Great convo. Would love more investigation topics like this by yall
Idc who investigates crime. I don’t like when people try to say all this gang shit is Hiphop that just shows me people don’t really know or care about Hiphop. Just cause a gang member raps in his basement don’t make him a part of Hiphop. Adam 22 has a gang investigation room not a Hiphop channel. But what do I know.
What happened to hip hop/black culture is what happens to everything under capitalism…but hit the like and subscribe to the patreon 😅
Poddymouth was just the required opposition in discussions for this collab video lol
40:00 in my opinion, the pop punk era (ex. Paramore Fall Out Boy All Time Low Panic at the Disco My Chemical Romance) was the last time rock was popular with teens and it all died around the time myspace and music video countdowns were out of the zeitgeist. Around the early 2010s. Like by 2013 it was all EDM music and HipHop were taking over the top 40.
Really the shift started with Goofy Movie with Tevin Campbell
Poddy mouth was just the required opposition for this collab video lol
Just gotta say how much I love and appreciate this show. Appreciate the depth, energy, humor and honesty. 👏🏿
WHo needs to know the culture to cover rappers who murder each other?
The Dutch colonized South Africa first then The British took it from them.
Shoutout to AJ the Menace 💯🎓🔔
I was having a similar-but-not-the-same conversation today about neurodivergence issues. If you're not part of the group but you want to understand what it means & advocate for a more equal society you need to first accept that you will never be part of it and secondly listen to people who ARE part of it first. We don't need a n external saviour with external solutions and I get the impression Black people don't either; what we need is people who are willing to fucking LISTEN to what we need and not try to impose a "solution" from outside that doesn't actually address our problems.
No neurotypical person will ever have the answers to neurodivergent problems; no white person will ever have the answer to Black problems. As someone who has a strong monofocus on solving problems that can be hard for me to accept, but it's something I've learned; and if I can do it I feel like other people certainly fucking can too.
Okay, but we can't keep charismatic, problematic people either.