HAS EVERYONE BEEN SCAMMED? (Ping G430 10K Review…)
HAS EVERYONE BEEN SCAMMED? (Ping G430 10K Review…)
The most forgiving driver ever to be made… comes at a price. But is that price justified and should it be allowed with what Ping have done!
Full review & thoughts on the new Ping G430 10K Driver!
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Can't feel sorry for the dmbasses for paying stupid inflated prices for repurposed equipment.
I play the G430 Max, Kai'li White stiff shaft, had it just over a year now and my game off the tee has been great. I did get fitted which was very important, this driver had enough of an impact on my game that I ended up getting the 3 wood and 3/4 hybrids, absolutely LOVE them.
I just bought the g430 10k and it is a game changer. I have mishit low inside heel and top outside toe hit. Both were in the fairway but lost yardage. My last driver they would have been alive city or duffed OB. This is by far the best driver for forgiveness. PXG Q1d and Ai smoke all great but still not close
He should do a video of the 10k vs Chinese dupes. There's a handful a videos where the casual golfer did not know the difference. These were scratch shooter casual golfers too.
Golf technology is a little simpler than most people think. Their marketing would have you believe different
Seriously, in 2024, what difference does £70 make?
You had a 10k and a Max head and did not do an side by side comparison of 10 shots each?
Changed from G400 to G430 max10k. Forgiveness similar, distance better. After clearing my garage and going to Clubs4Cash, cost £100. Still have the 400 just in case🙂
600 quid ,thats a fkin shocker ,soon as you said 600 quid i stopped watchin ,whats the fkin point .
I got the g430 max this week annnd I’m really happy. I’m a higher handicap golfer. I hit my old driver, the callaway AI, and the tit-less … as well as the 430. The 430 was 900 AUD, the clustering of my shots on the g430 was so much tighter than any of the others I hit. Around 2200 rpm backspin vs over 3000 for the others. if I could get the 10k it was other another 200$ more expensive. For people like me Think about how many times you hit driver when playing and whether it’s worth spending all your money on that one club vs short game and approach improvements.
Totally greedy rip off. Overall, the price is an insult to us. i.e. do they think we are that crazy to spend $800+ USA $. Nuts to that. No one over say a 5 handicap needs this 2% improvement to their game.
Funny my G30 lst still petforms as well as both of those
The PING G425 MAX is the greatest driver ever made.
everyone has been scammed anyway. They should take lessons on the short game and work on putting and chipping big drives dont improve the score chipping and putting does. So yeah you are being scammed.
When I took up the game it was the era of "wood/woods." You either played a laminated Maple or a Persimmon-headed driver. The Persimmon was a harder wood and the ball jumped off the face so you usually got more distance but they were a lot more expensive (from my POV) than the laminated. Here's the difference between back in the day game of golf and today. The drivers were about 185-190 cc (somewhere between the size of today's 5 wood and 3 wood) compared to the 460cc of today's drivers. The sweet spot on the wood drivers was about the size of a dime (no kidding), compared to today's drivers where the sweet spot is nearly the entire face. Add to that the shafts were heavy steel compared to today's super-light graphite (forget about generating the club head speed with the "wood/woods" like you can today). And the balls? Pfft! they cut so easily that one miss-hit and it is garbage. The cuts on the covers were sometimes so bad you could see the rubberbands inside. That's right, golf balls had rubber bands wound around a rubber core and they didn't go very far and spun like crazy—meaning banana balls and duck hooks ruled the golf universe. I'm talking slices that went 1-2 fairways over. The irons? Picture butter knives on a stick. There was no forgiveness back in the day and finding a scratch or low handicap golfer? You would have better luck spotting Bigfoot. When you combine the two technologies it's like comparing night to day. A much, much easier game today than it was back then.
There is nothing wrong with the G430 MAX. I've had both and sold both. Virutally no difference. Want less spin? Lower the loft. They both hit high. G430 LST is where it's at lol.
I’m a bit pissed off actually, just upgraded to the G430 and 5 wood and hybrid. Had I known I would have waited that bit longer as I can’t afford to change very often, as in every 10 years or so
Great video man, love the honesty and your delivery of it 👍 keep up the good work!
I bought the 430 lst before ping brought out the 10 k which is a pure ripoff I want be up grading to the 10 k well done ping
Boy, your right hand grip is a bit scary……surprised you don’t hook it more often
In a pros hands, the game must be boring. Bomb, wedge, how fun.
I've seen like 10 videos with the same premise basically saying that people got duped buying the ping g430 Max. And the Ping g430 Max 10K is way superior. I don't fucking know but I have the 410 so I will be getting the 10K if I upgrade
It seems like the driver isn't that forgiving on distance. I saw multiple 250-260 carries as well as multiple 290+ carries. A 30-40 yard drop off seems like a huge drop off for a forgiving driver.
How can you – and just about every other golf YouTuber – make the claim that the Ping G430 driver will be "the most forgiving driver ever made" – for EVERY golfer? That is totally absurd. Everybody has different swings with a multitude of different variables involved. What works for you WON'T work for everyone. A year from now, their NEW Ping G500 SuperMax 20K at $700 will be even better than THIS 'best ever' driver. When Ping won't put the price on their own website, that's a HUGE red flag.
I golfed last week with a guy who looked like he could be a pro golfer, perfect swing. On the 1st tee he GUSHED about his G430 max driver – hits it a mile, most forgiving driver he's ever owned – he sounded like a Ping commercial. The guy was in the woods looking for his 330-yard drives most of the day… and the thing sounded ridiculous – like he was banging on an empty coffee can.
I needed a new driver this spring – went to big golf shop in NH with an outdoor range. (I shoot low-mid 80's). Hit 20-25 balls each with all the big names, although I was SURE I'd eventually buy a Stealth, Paradym, AeroJet, Titleist TSRx OR the Ping G430 max. I'm a sucker for "most forgiving!" and "ridiculously long!" – along with the looks. Threw in the Cleveland Launcher as well knowing it didn't stand a chance. BY FAR, the club I hit the straightest was the Cleveland – and it wasn't close.
After an hour of hitting balls, I couldn't justify buying anything but the Cleveland – cut 2 inches off, re-gripped it w/ a jumbo and I'm in the fairway 9 out of 10 drives – when I miss, I know exactly why. No, it's not going 300, but I'd rather be 270 and in the fairway anyway.
People are being suckered by the big-name manufacturers – "use the same driver Rory Mcllroy uses!" – yeah, right…no. His driver is molded to his exact specs – which most couldn't hit if they tried. Every year a new and improved model comes out – and the previous years "must have/best ever" driver drops in price by a couple hundred – and nobody seems to see anything wrong with this.
I have a G 425 and tried several drivers during covid. Was a low handicapper but don't play much anymore. The G 425 was by far the easiest to hit and most consistent. I may not play for a few months now , no practice and go out and hit 10 or 11 fairways with it .
Use the same club with a high handicap person and they will hit 1 out of 10
Every year golfers get scammed by the manufacturers but it's not the manufacturer's problem it's the stupid golfers who buy into it and buying it. Proof? No matter how forgiving an iron or driver and pick your fav, they are only as good as your skill (swing) is, period! So, go use your 10-year-old clubs and get lessons from a reputable swing coach who coaches you according to what you can with the body that you have and that will be more fulfilling than a $700 club that you bought to use a $10 swing to swing at hit, think about it. It's really not the arrow it's most likely the Indian. By now you should know it, after buying all these high-tech clubs you should be a pro but if you still duck hook it or banana it etc you are insane LOL.
What set up did you have for the shaft and flex
when every company is putting out a new driver every quarter these days… what do you expect… Ping just following suit…
Just got fit for a 10k today, first new driver in 10 years and really looking forward to putting some rounds through it
I traded in my G425 Max for the G430 Max 10K. Got raped on the difference, not gonna lie. Took it to the range yesterday for the first swings. Out of a small bucket, I hit two clunkers. Maybe not all would have been in the fairway, but I was pretty impressed overall. Day after tomorrow I'll be playing, so can't wait to see how it really does😊
I did a fitting last year to replace my second hand bought, 6 year old driver for Cleveland. The Hi-Bore XLS. I tried several drivers, from different branches, After 1 1/2 hour I decided to stay with my old driver because the win of a new ones was marginal for the money I had to spent.
Here in Canada, this driver is almost $1000 out the door. Until my game improves to the point where I can justify a new driver, my 2005 Big Bertha FT-3 does just fine.
Look, if you buy a driver the year it comes out, you deserve what you get if they do this type of thing. It is the same with cars, PC equipment, hell just about anything….NEVER buy it the minute it comes out. Give it a few months at least….hell I usually wait about a year.
1:02 wow, that's a heavy driver :O
Your grip is too strong. Bad habit will cause duck hooks.
I can hear and feel drag on the backswing, Anyone else. 🤔
Good video – Did #2 hit fairway?
(Warning: long post) Hello, as a person who owned both the G430 Max and the G430 LST, I can offer a little bit of what I saw comparing those two drivers to the G430 Max 10K. Tidbits: Compared to my G430 Max, I saw about 5 yards distance increase on the Max 10K, so that's really not a factor, but I did see my dispersion tighten up by about 10% or so. The G430 Max gave me a little more ability to shape the flight of the ball (draw/cut), while the Max 10K just does one thing super well… it's straight. Launch angles and spin rates were almost identical between the Max and the Max 10K (the spin rate on the 10K was a touch higher, about 100 rpm give or take). Now, compared to the LST, I do lose a little bit of distance on the Max 10K, but pretty minimal (about 5 yards or so), but again, I see a tighter dispersion on the Max 10K. The big difference here is the launch angles and spin rates, as the Max 10K produced about 1-1.5 degrees higher launch angle and about 400 rpm higher spin rate. Now, there's a hat trick here that people may or may not know about… The perimeter weight on the back of the clubhead on the Max 10K is 28 grams. On the Max, it's 25 grams, and on the LST, it's 22 grams… this gave me an idea. I started playing around with that weight and started monitoring my launch angles and spin rates. What I discovered is that if you want LST performance with a little more forgiveness, swap out the 28 gram weight for the 22 gram weight. Going to the 22 gram weight dropped my launch angle by about 1.5 degrees, and reduced my spin rate to almost identical to my LST, about 400 rpm. Putting in the 25 gram weight made it almost identical to my Max for both launch angle and spin rate. So a person could tweak their preferred launch angle and spin by swapping out the perimeter weight at the back of the clubhead. Again, I must make it clear that these are numbers that I personally saw when testing and owning these drivers. Your mileage my vary. Was I upset about Ping releasing the Max 10K after I had purchased a Max? Not really, after finding out why… Ping was initially having some trouble with the addition of the carbon fiber on the crown of the clubhead. Now some people may scream, "Well, Ping has it on the LST!" Yes, they do, BUT… the shape of the head between the LST and the Max 10K is a bit different, and because of the different shape, Ping was having a little bit of trouble with putting the carbon fiber on the crown and making it reliable, which is why it didn't get released right away. Ping did it right by marketing it as an addition to their G430 line, as I feel if they simply marketed it as the "new" G430 Max, that would have definitely angered more people, leaving people feeling like they've been ripped off. Is it WORTH the $600 price tag? If you already have an LST or a Max, no. Just "dance with the one ya brung". Only reason I went after it is because I got great trade-in value for my Max. But, for someone that's looking to upgrade from something that's older than maybe 4-5 years old, it may be worth it. (Side note: I did hit the Taylormade Qi10 Max and the Callaway Ai Smoke. They were both very forgiving, but the Qi10 was consistently 20 years shorter distance, and the Ai Smoke didn't feel good to me at impact, wasn't getting any feel.)
Well good news for a long time G400lst user, finally might have something to change to. Almost went Tsr but maybe ping has one to take my g400lst out of the bag.