
Exposing Hip Hop's Original Industry Plants…kinda
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Exposing Hip Hop's Original Industry Plants…kinda
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00:00 What is an Industry Plant?
07:17 The Early Days of Hip Hop
13:55 Their Come Up
30:25 Their Fall…
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I think the concept of the industry being able to manufacture a successful artist from essentially nothing except good looks is giving the industry too much credit. Businessmen only know money and if they make all the decisions on the end product it will be shit. See super hero movies, they tried turning it into a product and then everyone stopped watching them. At minimum they need some talent to work with, like the artist can sing/rap/dance and there definitely are artists today that can sing but can't write for example. But arguably the more the artist does for the businessmen the better for business, if a label can provide funds and distribution but the artist does everything else the label wins more. So i would say there exists a spectrum of lets say "industri plantness" where most artist cannot be disconnected completely from the industri and to some degree are propped up by the business behind it all. Is it good, is it bad? Arguably there are both benefits and drawbacks to how it works as with everything else but considering that the industry sometimes manages to show us a really good artist i would say it is what it is.
Iβm 19 and I only know kid and play 13:20 from the movie π
Ice Cube only got paid $50 000 for everything NWA produced that's why he went solo. TLC only got $3M to share 3 ways over 5yrs of play. The Manager earned 18M. Now they're Scrubs looking for a job. The Music of Business.
The only thing i think a Rap album is missing are Funeral Commercials to sell Coffins in between tracks. Black Youth buy into playing the white man stereotype. Clowns w guns scaring white people. A sucker is sitting in Prison somewhere w his Ice Cube Album serving 14yrs. And Mr. O"Shea is loungin out in his Crib in the Hollywood Hills puffin w Martha and Snoop.
Love your Yo! MTV Raps tee! That takes me back–just like this entire video. Thank you for this!
After all the gov worked to bring Uzis n aks n shit into the us in the 70s-2000s to push this idea of gangsta rap when corporations and government influencers throughout the many decades tried pushing to shape that image. After all the gov caused all of this negative shit and keeps doin it right now fer the $$$$ , as a punker I've seen a similar capitalistic series of grabs -also the hardcore scene that the neo-nazis try to fuckin steal like punk, skinhead looks, and everything else. I fuckin hate nazis
Nothing but sellouts!
I loved Kid and Play. I feel like they represented the good kid from the hood. The kid that was from the hood but didnt hang in the streets. House Party was hood af. It just wasnt street. We needed the diversity.
Just discovered your channel. Love it. Please start doing interviews so I can stop watching vlad.
This is not applicable to any music genre. I grew up liking metal. After 2-3 albums, hits surface and they get called 'sellout' by core/outset fans. Back catalogue profits for the record compsny.
House Party is still beloved in my house π
Holy s#!t this guy is boring.
Bruh said jack harlow π
The sooner people understand this is spiritual warfare not everybody's going to come to Christ or Yeshua I understand that but understand Satan can't create anything that's why he mimics it these people want what God put in certain people which is the Holy Ghost dwelling in The talented gifts of the fruit of the spirit and they don't have it Satan can't have it he can't reproduce it and that's what you get are these in breads from society
Access, inve$tment, and shortened attention spans, has ruined "art". Music, and visual media, is now "Shovelware", and the consumer has been programmed/FOMO'd, to accept it, without thinking.
I guess im an old head i still rememeber when it was trendy for white people to say i hate "Rap music"
And my best friend when i was 14 in 87 told me rap was a trend that was going to die.
Click bait title. Should be, but not ashamed of yourself.
Man, this was good.
NO credit to Michael Jackson despite the Deepstate savaging his character after his death.
As a white boy in the 80s house party was how I found out about Kid n Play.
Not all hip hop was the same and only a certain type of group listened to kid and play and at that time hip hop was changing the groups the listened to run dmc Eric b were all grown up kid and play has to be put in the Era with tribe called quest da la soul
It's all fake. Especially Drake. πππ
That ain't your hair mainπππππππππππππππ
I remember having Class Act on repeat when it came out always thought it was hilarious
If gangsta rap is art then it's bad art. Not all forms of expression are equal. π
But Kendrick at the superbowl was a real subversive messageβ¦β¦right?β¦β¦β¦..rightβ¦..
Did you ever watch the Kid N' Play TV show back in the 90s? If so, were the audio problems always present when it initially aired on TV, or was it because of how it's shown on the internet today?
I loved kid n play they represented that college n go go style I didn't think it was a bad thang
I no longer believe that the music industry is filling a demand. As the saying goes, "build and they will come". They created the gangster hip hop market and society ate it up. The same thing they did with the mob movie genre in the 80s/90s, and now what they're doing with the LGBQT movement.
It's all about pushing an agenda.
What tribe runs the industry?
Good Enjoyed the content. Just for the record I am just seeing this now…. I am from Rockhampton, Queensland , Australia…. have a look at where I am…. Google it. I was one a few back then that got into rap hip hop in 87 Australia… Skateboarding, punk and hip hop were there for those who sort it out… I still hope that one day people will enjoy what works for them without being bullied or straight up beat cause they are different from the normal at the time I was watching and listening to the music back then and loved it and still do. No bully could stop me and skateboarding punk and rap was worth nothing to the machine. It was and still is about love of the art form. As is the cycle of all things. Greedy yuks will for a time monetize it and look for a cut but the true culture will reform like VOLTRON and return to the underground and the true believers…I don't hate on new stuff I just don't get it…. a familiar story sent from 1 gen to the next… evolution. Everyone wants the next gen to be better than the last… love each other and find the common ground that allows you to express your opinion… Peace out.
So if they don't fit with the typical hip hop or rap artist do that makes them industry plants interesting
The same people who profit from hip hop profit from private prisons
I saw an article that said they were married
I just found your channel and immediately clicked for the thumbnail. I had Kid N Play's first album on cassette and have found it kind of interesting that they're never included in "old school" hip hop retrospectives. I wasn't expecting such a content-dense hour. It's rare that I subscribe to a channel from the first video I watch, but you earned it. Btw Camron and Mase did the kick step on their podcast and pulled it off π
Industry Plants dont have track history. We saw Drake grind. He wasnt accepted when he first came out. His music made him cool