Did the Mali Empire Travel to America – Feb 27, 2021

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Did the Mali Empire Travel to America – Feb 27, 2021


Seriah interviews John Chewter about pre-Columbian expeditions to the Americas by the Mali Empire, an Islamic society in West Africa. Topics include anomalous artifacts, lost history, Mansa Musa, Persian rescue of the works in the Library of Alexandria, Islamic preservation/advances in mathematics and science, Chinese expeditions to the…

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  1. I came back to listen to this episode again.

    Keen to give it another go. After my brief exchange with John (who seems like a decent guy, btw!) in the comments, I was encouraged to do some more reading.

    There's some interesting overviews and sensible examinations and refutations of the hypothesis and I've linked to another article on Mali's empire and the problems of historical certainty surrounding accounts of the Mansa regime.

    Some of the details of the Mansa/Abu Bakarii II story are explored in great detail.

    Haslip‐Viera, G., De Montellano, B., & Barbour, W. (1997). Robbing Native American Cultures: Van Sertima's Afrocentricity and the Olmecs. Current Anthropology, 38(3), 419-441. doi:10.1086/204626 https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/204626

    Bell, N. (1972). The Age of Mansa Musa of Mali: Problems in Succession and Chronology. The International Journal of African Historical Studies, 5(2), 221-234. doi:10.2307/217515

    Fauvelle, F., & Tice, T. (2018). The Sultan and the Sea: Coast of Present-Day Senegal or Gambia, around 1312. In The Golden Rhinoceros: Histories of the African Middle Ages (pp. 160-168). PRINCETON; OXFORD: Princeton University Press. doi:10.2307/j.ctvc77kzq.28

  2. Wow… this comment section, though. It's amazing to me how personally people take things, that literally, have no impact on their lives. You're still in front of your computer, bored, and you're going to wake up again tomorrow, and be the same you.
    As for the white supremacists…. they seem pretty outraged, for people so supreme. My two cents: the truly supreme beings on this planet, are on mountain tops, humming to themselves, unbothered, by literally anything, anyone does. FYI, those people have a habit, of being a distinct shades of brown.

  3. Excellent episode gents! This is funny, I was just watching a video about essentially the opposite of this. The Tartars settling the Middle East. It was really interesting but about halfway through I realized I was most likely listening to nazi propaganda so I had to turn it off

  4. Sorry.
    Very interesting topic, this guy though is just going 5 mph. It's putting me to sleep. I tried. Punching out at 4 minutes in, cannot do 80 minutes of this. My apologies Seriah, gonna listen to a diff episode instead so I'm here – in spirit — EDIT/6 months after on 9/9/21, I'm giving another go.