Batya Ungar-Sargon: Why the culture war is a class war
Batya Ungar-Sargon: Why the culture war is a class war
Batya Ungar-Sargon returns to The Brendan O’Neill Show to talk about her new book, Second Class: How the Elites Betrayed America’s Working Men and Women. Batya and Brendan discuss the death of the American dream, the rise of the managerial elite and why there is hope in the populist backlash.
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House-building and immigration are inextricably linked. I live in the UK and we have a massively unsustainable net migration helping keep our wages down and mean that its impossible to get a dentist appointment etc. When someone suggests building over greenbelt to house yet more people moving here its not a good sell for me. With our current birth rate we dont need this many new houses, the new houses are for immigrants.
I really enjoyed her interview. Nothing makes me more incensed than graduate students now making up a huge chunk of the United Auto Workers union. The fact that “academic workers” were allowed to join an auto workers union should be criminal. You literally have rich graduate students studying pointless degrees like Masters in Gender Studies setting the terms of the UAW. 1/4 UAW members are now university staff (including adjunct professors) who like to cosplay as oppressed blue collar workers, advocate for Marxist nonsense,
demand better conditions for their cushy campus jobs, while making things infinitely worse for actual auto-workers. Perfectly exemplifies this dynamic.
When we ask our governments to build houses, they tell us they cant because interfering in the market leads to unfair outcomes. Yet they use immigration to suppress working class wages, is that not interfering in the market? Does that not lead to unfair outcomes?
What's the book called? Will see if I can grab a coppy..
Dad and both brothers are working class, none of us want this. We just want to live our lives and be left the fuck alone. I got a gay friend, and he doesn't gree with the woke stuff either.
I wonder if finally the team at Spiked have now stopped talking about a “more liberal” immigration system in the UK? It is and always has been both a class war issue and a war on the native Brits.
On Australia's ABC/SBS there used to be a comedy series called Houso's mocking underprivileged "bogans" from Government housing estates. Disgusting elite middle class garbage.
Is woke maybe a kind of anorexia disorder but about obe's culture rather than body?
Great stuff! If there was an option to leave a Super Thanks I would happily do so!
The working class are those individuals living from paycheck to paycheck.
I think someone (probably the DNC) threatened to make war and destroy Bernie Sanders if he didn't back off fighting for the working class interests. Similarly here in the U.K. somebody persuaded Jeremey Corbin to do a 180 degree reversal of his position on E.U. membership (just weeks before The Brexit Referendum.) Nobody in the media talks about it, but it was astonishing and bizarre.
Wonderful Lady!
She's very well-spoken. I'd like to see more of her on here.
Not so much 'white collar vs blue collar' as 'management class vs drone class'.
'Gender' is not a synonym for 'sex'. It is possible for an infant to develop into an adolescent who feels s/he is the wrong 'gender': but they can only be one, of two, sexes: male or female.
Were the Democrats not the slave-owning Class in the USA? Educated to Master's level, myself, I was completing a doctoral thesis when my life changed through unanticipated cardiac arrest (Complete Cardiac Block): but, as a Registered Nurse, and having studied Theology at university, I still consider myself Working Class. Education was done alongside my working life: the work I did in order to pay my mortgage and other bills. I viewed healing the sick (those with haematological malignancies) in vocational terms. But education never ceases: retirement allows one to continue with it, without the pressures of needing to pass exams, or write dissertations. Thank goodness for retirement!
Really enjoying this
By driving up energy prices by Net Zero policies and the like, we have also transferred part of our heavy industry and manufacturing capacity to China, India and other nations, often using less rigorous labour market standards, etc (although I am broadly for free trade in general). This huge transfer of industry is largely glossed over by those who declaim about global warming, etc. There's a disconnect, and some of this is class-based. People who live in smart neighbourhoods and haven't worked in a factory, farm or shipyard cannot relate to what is going on.
Talks alot of sense does Batya.
Inflation is a wealth transfer for those who have access to the monetary spigots of the central bank.
The working class don't want communism, it's just mind games for the middle class.
-Johnny Lydon
“Being poor is very expensive actually” So true
Very good – but I still think re-distribution is a good idea.
The economy will fix itself. The Ivy league and their academic aspirants have fouled themselves, and produced unemployable snowflakes, and paid no attention to what the market needs. You will find the market will hit back ALL by itself Batya.
As Brendan said in Oz – "Though all the winds of doctrine were let loose to play upon the earth, so Truth be in the field, we do injuriously by licensing and prohibiting to misdoubt her strength. Let her and Falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter." John Milton
F Marx
F brave new world
Batyas socioeconomic fusion lens of analysis is totally unique among the "intelligentsia" and makes a TON of sense. It's weird that none of the chattering class politicians and journalists seem to see this. Almost like it would be self-indicting…
I think working class has a lot to do with Real Economy vs Knowledge Economy. I am often shocked by the snobbishness of American sitcoms. Not a rigorous sociology assessment, i know, but why is the first thing you learn that someone is a janitor they are 'just' a janitor. Meritocracies are great but then the status preening is so obnoxious.
Marxist all the way down.
The new working class are people not working for the government. People working for the government have guaranteed income regardless of how much work there is. The working class live job to job. If there are no construction job, the tradies, the cost accountants, the sales people the truckies all hurt – unlike government employees.
Carl is looking pretty hot again!