Question. Do you consider Christianity a “fact-based” religion? It only came about thru slavery. Did they properly interpret the Bible? I do not think they did personally. Reading the Bible, there are absolutely consequences for your actions. Jesus does not forgive so easily, that is only what slave-minded Christianity taught. Religion is man made BS…culture trumps religion any day
Bro, I am a Nigeria living here in U S of A. This is classroom stuff. You are hitting the right stuff. All we need is getting together and unity. We are unstoppable!!
Great transcript so much facts my brother, you touched on a lot of facts, love it, your bravery, curiosity that's where it started and your love of Knowledge "Key" stay on your path. Need to speak to you privately so I can start my path. You make a lot of sense. Stay strong ❤
I don't know about other cosmologies but I can speak on the traditional understandings of our igbo ancestors. If Anything our traditions are lot like Indian Dharm. We don't have a Satan or a hell, we do have a creator. But we also believe in familial reincarnation. But in the Igbo understanding heaven and hell are created here in your very actions in how you live your life, and what you leave for your descendants. When you die regardless of what you have done you return to the creator, but your actions in your previous life, have consequences, and that situation doesn't go away when you die. And when you reincarnate, as your own descendant into the mess or the paradise you left is what you will be born in. This is why igbo are obsessed with creating generational wealth and prosperity! What convinced me to leave Christianity was the creation epic. Igbo knew the concept of the big bang before western scientists! We also had pyramids in igbo land! So we as a people have always known one creator! We also know many arushi and agbara. So yes when monotheists arrived igbo readily accepted Christianity. But for me I think we never needed it. Odinani makes more sense!
❤ Blind CREATORS, CANT COMPLETE A STORY TO THE END FALSE WORSHIP, OR FALSE WORKSHOP. WORKING WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS THERE OWN AGENDA. COME, WHAT U WORSHIP WILL WORSHIP U, CAUSE AND AFFECT. GOOD EVIL GOD SATAN I AM WHAT , RELIGION,NO. POVERTY,NO, DRUGS,NO WHAT AM I LOL,LOL,LOL Light HERE NOW. IM SPELLING THE LIGHT, U ARE SOUNDING THE LIGHT 🎉🎉🎉. STORIES IS THE RECORD. ASK GOD FOR ACCESS. I SMELL THE LIGHT, I TASTE THE LIGHT. ECT.TRUE WORSHIP. INSIDE DARK OUTSIDE DARK. VICE VERSA. 369 COMPLETE
I am from the Ijaw Nation of Nigeria. If ever you want to explore the Ijaw Region. Hit me up. We are all ONE. Thank you for taking ur time to explore and observe what is going on in terms of African spirituallity and how it ties in with Christianity. I love how u analysed this very crucial topic. As you said, we should all be digging deep and exploring obout ourselves, and not wait for others to tell us who we are. I love you brother.
Islam, was violent in Africa. It didn't, spread like a business contract or opportunity like you said bro. The Arabs, raided Africans who wouldn't convert and also enslaved Africans even longer and more brutal than Christianity did. Both, of them was disastrous to Africa and Africans. And they are still doing same thing today with the likes of bokoharam terrorists killing people in Nigeria and other Islamic terrorists group raiding and killing Africans in different parts of Africa. The Arabs, wanted power and control in Africa just the way the Europeans did. And this is why black people can't unite easily cos' of the division between two religions battling to have absolute power on Africans.
If you ever go to delta state Nigeria to create content let me know I’ll accommodate you in my house. I mean it please, I’m proud of what you do and I try to get my African America brothers here in Baltimore to understand their siblings are in Nigeria, I told them if they drive through Nigerian state they must see someone that look exactly like them, they don’t believe me. please educate us more we are one people. We must all learn to know our worth and who we truly are
Thanks for your video.. Yes we Igbo's are spiritual ancient people. Because of how spiritual we were our ancestors were deceived with European through their religion. Accepting Christianity was the worst thing that happened to Igbo race. Accepting white man idols , gods and deities has done us more harm than good. But we are waken up from Eurocentric religion
I agree with you 90% on this one Chief. I think that we have to have some sort of artifact or document to verify that Igbo was trading with East Africa. The East Africans (culturally) had paper, there is no evidence that West Africans had paper prior to Islam. I would think that the Ghana, Sanhaja, the Mende, the Fula, and the Bambara were instrumental in establishing the trade routes that we know of now. Where I could be wrong….the great mysterious kingdom of Kanem Borno, which is a close neighbor with Nigeria. Kanem Borno is proven to have established trade routes also. But there are no records because none of us had paper. East Africans did.
Its sad because African Americans come to Nigeria and tell people of the land that it's great spirits that flow that are more powerful than these religions
My brother, you understand us well well, I thank you so much for this words of enlightened topic, This is exactly how I see and come to understand our black way of life, I have completely abandoned Christianity to fully embrace my igbo spirituality in other to be whole again, Thank you ❤
3:40: I'm just about 4 minutes into your video and I can already guess what you figured out. Abrahamic religions fit into Africa like a neat piece of a jigsaw puzzle because it is foundationed in African principles and culture. That's not even the best part about it. You see for a lot of non African people, this tiny piece of the puzzle was the whole puzzle. Their culture began and ended with this tiny religion. But in the case of Africa it was like wearing a new crown. It was like taking out an old core and fixing in a new one. That is why today a Yoruba Muslim will not hesitate to consult ancestral science or knowledge in dealing with a problem or a person. These abrahamic religions become an administrative convenience for their time and when Africans willingly adopted them, they simply took off one layer of culture and put a new one, preserving other layers of culture. African legacy is just that complex and invaluable. Unlike this modern world where the white man has put everything into neat little boxes for him to make sense of it, there was no dividing line between spirituality, physicality and the science needed to validate the physical world. Everything was connected. And a social structure like Christianity or Islam couldn't touch that. It was like laying a new rug on a well built floor on top of 300, 000 years of solid foundation and history. Only people unable to see outside the new tiny box called religion because it was the best thing to ever happen to them or their ancestors tried to spread it by force like they were doing anyone a favor
Its true….esp in the Old testament, a lot of the practices there are in our traditional religions here; in our traditional religions, there is consequences for every action; if you commit a crime, you will pay for it, nothing like forgiveness. Thats why back in the day, crime was very low according to the elders, thefts were rare, much less murders and other criminal activities we see today since western religion came to Africa
"We forgot that we were pretending." I like that. I'm gonna to add that to my list of quotes.
Good talk. Traditional African spiritual systems… It's my favorite thing to soak up information on because it literally touches on everything. Science, history, language, mathematics, justice, family, culture… Our ancestors were so practical, so keenly observant of their environment. We were never charged to take things on faith. Everything was grounded in nature (because nature is the best teacher). Odinani (as it is on the land).
No Islam was brutal to Africans. Arab forcefully converted the African. The sent them to go raid Africans force them to convert or be slaughtered. They castrated their own people , african people.
Hope you get a chance to spend time with Ifa practitioners……beautiful consciousness. Correct, most African spiritual traditions believe in a Source that is both male and female hence the heavy emphasis on BALANCE and EQUITY that is lost on all Abrahamic religions that are patriarchal. Ifa also espouses reincarnation hence the reverence for ancestors and emphasis on everyone’s Ori or divine energy of soul that manifests over many lifetimes for a purpose. No concept of original sin hence no need to ve saved from anything or anyone.
check out Animism, vodoo is just a part of Animism. Africans and nearly all other animist put spirituality into the environment around them, basically " You can't cut down this forest because our ancestors spirits are in the forest"
Everybody check out this video of me Inside the traditional shrine in Nigeria. Tell me this don't look familiar
https://youtu.be/_AybHRLsaWQ?si=k5Vs7H-09QnWvh8P
Very insightful thank you Brother
Question. Do you consider Christianity a “fact-based” religion? It only came about thru slavery. Did they properly interpret the Bible? I do not think they did personally. Reading the Bible, there are absolutely consequences for your actions. Jesus does not forgive so easily, that is only what slave-minded Christianity taught. Religion is man made BS…culture trumps religion any day
Bro, I am a Nigeria living here in U S of A. This is classroom stuff. You are hitting the right stuff. All we need is getting together and unity. We are unstoppable!!
It's all energetic. Sango is not Thor as Sango is first
WELL SAID!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Great transcript so much facts my brother, you touched on a lot of facts, love it, your bravery, curiosity that's where it started and your love of Knowledge "Key" stay on your path. Need to speak to you privately so I can start my path. You make a lot of sense. Stay strong ❤
I don't know about other cosmologies but I can speak on the traditional understandings of our igbo ancestors. If Anything our traditions are lot like Indian Dharm. We don't have a Satan or a hell, we do have a creator. But we also believe in familial reincarnation. But in the Igbo understanding heaven and hell are created here in your very actions in how you live your life, and what you leave for your descendants. When you die regardless of what you have done you return to the creator, but your actions in your previous life, have consequences, and that situation doesn't go away when you die. And when you reincarnate, as your own descendant into the mess or the paradise you left is what you will be born in. This is why igbo are obsessed with creating generational wealth and prosperity! What convinced me to leave Christianity was the creation epic. Igbo knew the concept of the big bang before western scientists! We also had pyramids in igbo land! So we as a people have always known one creator! We also know many arushi and agbara. So yes when monotheists arrived igbo readily accepted Christianity. But for me I think we never needed it. Odinani makes more sense!
The story of King Paul in the Bible is a Yoruba story, the exact same culture.
❤
Blind CREATORS, CANT COMPLETE A STORY TO THE END
FALSE WORSHIP, OR FALSE WORKSHOP. WORKING WITH SOMEONE
WHO HAS THERE OWN AGENDA.
COME, WHAT U WORSHIP WILL WORSHIP U,
CAUSE AND AFFECT.
GOOD EVIL
GOD SATAN
I AM WHAT , RELIGION,NO. POVERTY,NO, DRUGS,NO
WHAT AM I
LOL,LOL,LOL
Light HERE NOW.
IM SPELLING THE LIGHT, U ARE SOUNDING THE LIGHT 🎉🎉🎉.
STORIES IS THE RECORD. ASK GOD FOR ACCESS.
I SMELL THE LIGHT, I TASTE THE LIGHT.
ECT.TRUE WORSHIP.
INSIDE DARK OUTSIDE DARK.
VICE VERSA.
369
COMPLETE
I am from the Ijaw Nation of Nigeria. If ever you want to explore the Ijaw Region. Hit me up. We are all ONE. Thank you for taking ur time to explore and observe what is going on in terms of African spirituallity and how it ties in with Christianity. I love how u analysed this very crucial topic. As you said, we should all be digging deep and exploring obout ourselves, and not wait for others to tell us who we are. I love you brother.
🎉preach brother
Did you move to Africa, Baba?
Thon is a copy of Sango
You are totally wrong about Islam in Africa as a religion is trade. Just stay out of religion matters and HISTORIES you are taking about.
Islam, was violent in Africa. It didn't, spread like a business contract or opportunity like you said bro. The Arabs, raided Africans who wouldn't convert and also enslaved Africans even longer and more brutal than Christianity did. Both, of them was disastrous to Africa and Africans. And they are still doing same thing today with the likes of bokoharam terrorists killing people in Nigeria and other Islamic terrorists group raiding and killing Africans in different parts of Africa. The Arabs, wanted power and control in Africa just the way the Europeans did. And this is why black people can't unite easily cos' of the division between two religions battling to have absolute power on Africans.
If you ever go to delta state Nigeria to create content let me know I’ll accommodate you in my house. I mean it please, I’m proud of what you do and I try to get my African America brothers here in Baltimore to understand their siblings are in Nigeria, I told them if they drive through Nigerian state they must see someone that look exactly like them, they don’t believe me. please educate us more we are one people. We must all learn to know our worth and who we truly are
Simple and real.Respect
Thanks for your video.. Yes we Igbo's are spiritual ancient people. Because of how spiritual we were our ancestors were deceived with European through their religion. Accepting Christianity was the worst thing that happened to Igbo race. Accepting white man idols , gods and deities has done us more harm than good. But we are waken up from Eurocentric religion
Nice one bro ❤❤
Love listening to you you are real ❤
Hey, what part of Nigeria did you buy your land? Can I talk to you ? In private
The funny thing is the Bible doesn’t say that you will be forgiven just because you asked 😂😢sorry folks your pastor is a Lie .
I agree with you 90% on this one Chief. I think that we have to have some sort of artifact or document to verify that Igbo was trading with East Africa. The East Africans (culturally) had paper, there is no evidence that West Africans had paper prior to Islam. I would think that the Ghana, Sanhaja, the Mende, the Fula, and the Bambara were instrumental in establishing the trade routes that we know of now.
Where I could be wrong….the great mysterious kingdom of Kanem Borno, which is a close neighbor with Nigeria. Kanem Borno is proven to have established trade routes also. But there are no records because none of us had paper. East Africans did.
Its sad because African Americans come to Nigeria and tell people of the land that it's great spirits that flow that are more powerful than these religions
Another great vlog today 👊🏿 👊🏿👊🏿
Igbo or Ibo is an adulterated term for Hebrew.
What good is it to be people of the Bible and we still at the bottom? I can care less about that.
I got to go where the money is at. Don't forget the country that I chose to live better have a military to protect me.
Everything you said are on point mall
True talking king ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
My brother, you understand us well well, I thank you so much for this words of enlightened topic,
This is exactly how I see and come to understand our black way of life, I have completely abandoned Christianity to fully embrace my igbo spirituality in other to be whole again,
Thank you ❤
3:40: I'm just about 4 minutes into your video and I can already guess what you figured out. Abrahamic religions fit into Africa like a neat piece of a jigsaw puzzle because it is foundationed in African principles and culture. That's not even the best part about it. You see for a lot of non African people, this tiny piece of the puzzle was the whole puzzle. Their culture began and ended with this tiny religion. But in the case of Africa it was like wearing a new crown. It was like taking out an old core and fixing in a new one. That is why today a Yoruba Muslim will not hesitate to consult ancestral science or knowledge in dealing with a problem or a person. These abrahamic religions become an administrative convenience for their time and when Africans willingly adopted them, they simply took off one layer of culture and put a new one, preserving other layers of culture. African legacy is just that complex and invaluable. Unlike this modern world where the white man has put everything into neat little boxes for him to make sense of it, there was no dividing line between spirituality, physicality and the science needed to validate the physical world. Everything was connected. And a social structure like Christianity or Islam couldn't touch that. It was like laying a new rug on a well built floor on top of 300, 000 years of solid foundation and history. Only people unable to see outside the new tiny box called religion because it was the best thing to ever happen to them or their ancestors tried to spread it by force like they were doing anyone a favor
Its true….esp in the Old testament, a lot of the practices there are in our traditional religions here; in our traditional religions, there is consequences for every action; if you commit a crime, you will pay for it, nothing like forgiveness. Thats why back in the day, crime was very low according to the elders, thefts were rare, much less murders and other criminal activities we see today since western religion came to Africa
Thank you for this lesson.
"We forgot that we were pretending." I like that. I'm gonna to add that to my list of quotes.
Good talk. Traditional African spiritual systems… It's my favorite thing to soak up information on because it literally touches on everything. Science, history, language, mathematics, justice, family, culture… Our ancestors were so practical, so keenly observant of their environment. We were never charged to take things on faith. Everything was grounded in nature (because nature is the best teacher). Odinani (as it is on the land).
Every religion has African aspects in them. But African worship is spirituality in relation to Almighty!
No Islam was brutal to Africans. Arab forcefully converted the African. The sent them to go raid Africans force them to convert or be slaughtered. They castrated their own people , african people.
TRUE
Hope you get a chance to spend time with Ifa practitioners……beautiful consciousness. Correct, most African spiritual traditions believe in a Source that is both male and female hence the heavy emphasis on BALANCE and EQUITY that is lost on all Abrahamic religions that are patriarchal. Ifa also espouses reincarnation hence the reverence for ancestors and emphasis on everyone’s Ori or divine energy of soul that manifests over many lifetimes for a purpose. No concept of original sin hence no need to ve saved from anything or anyone.
check out Animism, vodoo is just a part of Animism. Africans and nearly all other animist put spirituality into the environment around them, basically " You can't cut down this forest because our ancestors spirits are in the forest"