How widespread was racism in the Allied militaries during WW2? – #OOTF #shorts
How widespread was racism in the Allied militaries during WW2? – #OOTF #shorts
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This question comes from a few different comments we've seen recently, we also did a special on racism in the US Army a few years back which you can watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7kwIOqkluY
I've heard that Eisenhower retarded the liveration of Paris by a couple of days because of racism….
He wanted the first unit in Paris to be a french one, but the only french unit that reached Paris with the Americans were an African one, so majoritarily black. So he refused them and had to wait for the armoured divisions of Leclerc to reach Paris XD
Should have commented on the Maori Battalion
It was a time before "Not being racist" was a thing.
I'd consider being placed in non-combat a plus, actually. The other stuff sucks tho
Hey, do you have any information on racism in the red army?
I did my thesis on the police in WW2. I remember reading accounts of US black servicemen being treated civilly and with respect by British police and being amazed by the experience.
The British Army assigned soldiers from the West Indies to the "Royal Lumberjack Corps", cutting down trees in Scotland¡
The 442 was specifically a japanese unit. Other Asians, as allied nations but never numbering enough, served in the white units.
The perpetual pox on our nation.
Perversely, racism meant non white soldiers were not allowed to die or get injured on the front line, so perhaps the one time it was positive.
You should look into the treatment of colonial troops in the French Liberation Army.
Algerians, Moroccans and Tunisians who fought to liberate France were promised citizenship within the metropole as well as indemities for war service. None were given, and those who migrated nonetheless for work in factories loved in utter poverty.
There is also the case of the Senegalese Tirailleurs that stood up against their officers for being grounded after the war, without pay or retro pay. They took two officers hostage, one was killed by accident. Tanks were sent in the camp and mowed nearly all. The massacre at Thiaroye.
people need to stop thinking ww2 was a moral crusade
What about the red army??
people will bring this up as a dig against the U.S. and U.K. but I highly doubt y'all would prefer the other side winning so shut up
Dont forget what the french did to there Sanegalese soldiers😔
If Allies were so racist why were they any better that Nazis? You also forgot to say that Red Army was an exception to other Allies and had no segregation or racism.
everyone: oh yea we had some racism and would not let them climb the ranks. Canada and Australia: you guys have ranks?
I would like a bit about if there was any pushback against the inclusion of non-white races into the allied militaries. I assume it was just as controversial and hated like how modern American military now ooenly include the trans and lgbt communitues.
Was the inlcusion of blacks, natives, and Indians just as frowned upon aa the inclusion and gays and trans now?
Fighting for democracy and freedom, against fascism and nazism while being a racist and a segregationist…
Something doesn't add up… 😂😂😂
Shh don't mention how the French treated African soldiers.
Fun fact, the british soldiers were so pissed at the segregation policy of the us that they had a little mutiny against the american soldiers
Humans do so love to hate.
The really funny part is that the US military was afraid that if German POWs were treated by white nurses, there would be fraternization with the enemy, so POW camps were predominantly staffed with black medical personnel.
Yeah, there were a lot of black babies named Hans, Frederich-Wilhelm, and Heinz, after that.
This was less than 100 years ago. We've made progress, but still have work to do.
That's like asking how widespread was homophobia in the 1990's.
The Canadians were placed in non-combat role especially the war prison is to reduce war crimes on all sides. Especially what they did during the Great War.
-The Joke
I find it baffling that racists would refuse to let them fight and instead gave them relatively safe jobs, you would think racists would want to preserve their own men in those safe positions hand have the race they hate die fighting for them.
For context in the British empire forces those non home countries e.g soilders from out side the British isles where not so much payed less as paid by the stand for the country they lived in say a British isles soilder was 10 coins a Indian or African soilder would be paid 5 coins because they could live comfortably with that salary in there native country
fun fact : France offered their most prestigious decoration to 171 black american soldiers at the end of the first world war (and i think the decorations were taken from them when they got back to the US)
I do like how they slightly addressed it in COD WW2, with the main character being surprised at how the highest ranking engineer he works with is African American
The irony: The nazi SS was way less "racist" against the black american prisoners of war than their own white american comerades !!!
Smh. If they fight for you, you better treat them well.
Same as civilian life
So..in a weird way…racism may have stopped those who would have faced violence back at home form getting killed in actual combat…? In fact, the most serious race riots by allied troops came by white soldiers who were angry that certain individuals on their own side were treated with respect and dignity (well as much as one could want from white folks)
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It's sad. We were fighting against Racism and Fascism and we didn't even fave our Racism issues. 😟😮💨
in the australian and kiwi army there was no racism ,getn your facks right
It was often an issue so much that it was normal and was an issue in WW1 as well. The exceptions of when white people were not racist are remarkable stories as well. But the stories are all bad.
There was a group of solders that after their unit had pulled back stayed and faught the Germans. Once they were out of ammo and fought there way out (with hand to hand I believe) they tried to get back to allied lines and had to stop in a small village. One of the neighbors turned them in and the SS picked them up and ended their service. The town that they had fought to save and they died protecting erected a monument to them. The US government refused to give them any awards and it was only because of the people in that village that the US would finally accept they should have gotten the honors they had earned – in the Clinton Administration… many decades later.
The racism never really stopped for so many of those GIs.
seems like a good thing to be placed in none combat roles dont have people shooting you surley the racists would put the none whites in combat roles
Except there was one higher ranked aboriginal man in the Aussie 2/7th battalion. I can’t remember his rank or name though.
I am Indian and it boils my blood when I see people wearing red Poppy flowers to remember the veterans. Not to be dismissive of their sacrifice and bravery but hundreds of thousands of soldiers from India(and Africa) died in each war and served in many difficult theatres to save the Allies but no western movie and tv or popular culture even mentions them. No Poppy blew over Flanders field for the dark skinned soldier. The British in India were very racist and mistreated Indian soldiers in the Army, which made up a huge part of the British Army. An old person told a story that her father was in the Army back then and being Indian they were mistreated and even the food they were given was very bad and unhygienic. After having suffered more than he could take, he went up to the British officer and smacked him with a plate in the head, his buddies somehow snuck him out of there and he went into hiding, otherwise they would have hung him.
now no one will fight !
Civil rights was never inevitable. Activists fought, bled, and died for those rights. And they aren’t set in stone. Never go back.
You missed so many opportunities to share the truth about what was occurring with OUR servicemen in France and Great Britain.
In the American Army for sure…. check out The Battle of Bamber Bridge… or the troop information film 'Know Thy Ally'
Don't tar the Brits with Americas vile systems
Is it any wonder the US and UK support the apartheid state of Israel…..
Surprised that the incident at Bamber Bridge was not mentioned as an example of the different attitudes of British and Americans
You don't see Germans ever being racist. From Wehrmacht to SS, there were all kinda of people with different backgrounds, Norwegians, Danish, Dutch, Latvian, French, Russian, Austrian… They were truly thinking ahead