Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris | Lex Fridman Podcast #418
Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris | Lex Fridman Podcast #418
Norman Finkelstein and Benny Morris are historians. Mouin Rabbani is a Middle East analyst. Steven Bonnell (aka Destiny) is a political livestreamer. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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4:42 – 1948
1:03:14 – Partition
2:07:47 – October 7
3:01:59 – Gaza
3:28:34 – Peace
4:33:18 – Hope for the future
5 ساعات كأنها 10 دقايق، حلقة جدا ممتعة ومثريه ثقافيا وتاريخا واخلاقيا وسياسيا، اتأكدت اكثر ان الاسرائلين ماعندهم اخلاق، عقيدتهم تلمودية بحت، الحل الوحيد في الحلقة ان اسرائيل تتفكك، وفلسطين حرة بالكامل.
Who else just wiggled their cursor to see the 5 hour video length after the guy says he speaks slowly.
a slow talker 3 shouters 1 mute
Good god Finkelstein is insufferable ughhh
Finkelstein might be just funny slow dude, but his lies make him just disgusting
"Just if Israel were to literally nuke the Gaza Strip and kill two million people, I don't know if that would qualify as genocide." – Steven Bonnell.,
Why stop at the “that’s a good point?” He admitted to the underlying contention of their argument, there’s a clear double standard between the defense of Israeli statements compared to the attack on Palestinian rhetoric.
ım confused who is on whose side ?
Norm "I am not happy to say this"
Mr Burrello: "Of course you are".
He deserves all that Norm threw at him.
Forget South Africa, they’re pro-Hamas… any Zionist rebuttal.
Just finished the whole debate after watching it in parts for a whole week. Mouin and Norman dominated this debate with logic and facts. What a performance! It got heated at times but I am grateful for this debate because it provides clarity to many parroted talking points. It was also fascinating how the double standards of the other side was exposed. Thank you Lex for an eye opening debate.
Those 4 pens in total travelled at least 15 miles.
In the year 1947, Zionist gangs annihilated more than 530 Palestinian villages, and the Zionists used biological warfare, not to mention their massacres in the 1930s. This did not stop in the twenty-first century, and all of this was before the emergence of Hamas. What is the Palestinian response that these people want?
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It's because of people like David Lynn that this bill is proposed because as you said he targets and tries to trigger the lgbt community for views.
Finkelstein is absolutely insufferable. This debate could have been much more productive if he took on the demeanour and exercised the humility that Rabbani has.
At theend of the day the Jews are in Israel, they are not going anywhere and will defend themselves when needed. So stop pointing fingers as to who was there first. The only way there will be some sort of peace is that both sides need to accept that the other is not going anywhere, start the negotiations from there!.
Experience matters Destiny' is way out of his League Wikipedia scholar he shouldn't even be at that table
3:25:30
Destiny: "We're not going to talk about how two consenting states engage in conflict, We're gonna talk about genocide."
Well…. yeah…? It's not a war when you refuse to recognize one side as a state?
Mr balenciaga: says something
Norm: meh meh meh meh🙄
How any intelligent disent New can give a platform to Finkelstein psychopath 🤯😨😂
It really seemed as after the break the Israeli side (especially Benny) just ran out of energy..
And destiny left alone against those two held composure brilliantly but clearly less coherent.
Second half of the debate was 90% Palestinian side talking.
if lex didn't exist democracy would already be dead thank you for engaging in conversation and doing such a great job a facilitating what are usually very important intellects from such different worlds to do the same.
Inviting Destiny to this debate is wiiild
Forget the independent sources, forget law……what???? I’m shocked!!!! Who is this Person??? Who is even listening or reading His books??? I’m speechless… not in the good way ….
"nobody cares about the law" this benny morris guy sounds like a weasel who only wants to interrupt, change the subject, and dismiss everything